Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 9th May 2009 09:58 UTC
Apple Since it's weekend, which usually equates to no news, we figured we'd follow in Engadget's footsteps by asking you, our dear and loving readers, what you would change about Apple's current Mac Pro. Engadget readers already had a few things to say - this is the internet after all. And since this is OSNews, we add a question of our own: what would you change about Mac OS X?
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Customizable OS X
by drstorm on Sat 9th May 2009 10:27 UTC
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2009-04-24

You pretty much said everything about Mac Pro that I can think of.

As for OS X, I am not a Mac user, so what I would like for it is to be more customizable. That would allow me to make it more PC-like (maybe I should say Windows like). You know, move the window control buttons to the right, get maximize button to actually maximize the window, etc.

However, I know that Apple was never big on customization. That is not their way. Their way is simplicity, so I don't see any changes coming in that area for a long time.

Overall, OS X is a solid system. Maybe they should implement address randomization like in Vista, as the lack of it makes OS X easier to exploit: http://www.osnews.com/story/21171/Miller_on_Mac_OS_X_Chrome_Firefox...

Edited 2009-05-09 10:31 UTC

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RE: Customizable OS X
by dragossh on Sat 9th May 2009 10:42 in reply to "Customizable OS X"
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2008-12-16

One thing I can't understand is why did they introduce Appearance Manager in Mac OS 8, only to drop it with Mac OS X?

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RE[2]: Customizable OS X
by Johann Chua on Sat 9th May 2009 12:07 in reply to "RE: Customizable OS X"
Johann Chua Member since:
2005-07-22

Early OS X builds had almost the same UI as OS 9, but then I guess they (or more likely Steve Jobs) felt the need to make the difference more obvious.

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RE[2]: Customizable OS X
by John.Gustafsson on Sat 9th May 2009 14:45 in reply to "RE: Customizable OS X"
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2005-08-08

One thing I can't understand is why did they introduce Appearance Manager in Mac OS 8, only to drop it with Mac OS X?


Because Jobs came back, with his team as well. They brought back certain values and ideas and the old MacOS simply wasn't compatible with that. A highly customizable OS is counter to what Apple wants to achieve with OS X, and adding it would seriously break their OS to the point where it isn't a Mac system at all anymore. It would add a complexity to the OS in many ways.

I know many people, chiefly certain kinds of geeks, crave the "I want to change everything"-approach and I think the honestly are better served by Linux. It's the tinkers favorite OS after all.

Other kinds of geeks, like me, are far better served by a system like OS X. I want Apple to come up with the absolute best defaults that they can, and I will only change what I really really need to change. I often change very little on any OS I use and if you have bad defaults, then it is bad for me. I want my experience coherent and I want them to put their development money and time into giving me features which I find useful, and I want them to shy from complexity and embrace elegance through simplicity.

That said:

Mac Pro. Redo the case, it's by far and large the ugliest mac around today. Make it cool and sleek. Other than that give us a Mac, which is the Pro but with a Desktop CPU instead (iNTEL i7 or what they are called today), smaller case, normal RAM, and the option of faster GFX cards.

OS X: Resolution independence (we have waited long enough). Better use of meta-data in the filesystem (iTunes, I am looking at you! XML database? I am crying inside! And changing something in the filesystem freaking breaks iTunes. Weak!) and the finder. Introduce proper surround sound in the core OS as well as all other products.

And if I can get a little extra hardware wish. Open Air Tunes so all hardware vendors can use it. I want it in my stereo, my surround equipment, in my speakers. I want it to handle full surround and I want the ipods/iphones to have hardware support. This would make me happy.

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RE[2]: Customizable OS X
by Macrat on Sat 9th May 2009 20:30 in reply to "RE: Customizable OS X"
Macrat Member since:
2006-03-27

One thing I can't understand is why did they introduce Appearance Manager in Mac OS 8, only to drop it with Mac OS X?


OS X has no relation to 9 and previous.

It comes from NeXT OS, so Mac-like features have to be ADDED to Mac OS X.

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RE[2]: Customizable OS X
by DavidSan on Sun 10th May 2009 04:47 in reply to "RE: Customizable OS X"
DavidSan Member since:
2008-11-18

One thing I can't understand is why did they introduce Appearance Manager in Mac OS 8, only to drop it with Mac OS X?


Macintosh and Mac OS X are two completely different operating systems.

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RE: Customizable OS X
by kaiwai on Sat 9th May 2009 14:00 in reply to "Customizable OS X"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

You pretty much said everything about Mac Pro that I can think of.

As for OS X, I am not a Mac user, so what I would like for it is to be more customizable. That would allow me to make it more PC-like (maybe I should say Windows like). You know, move the window control buttons to the right, get maximize button to actually maximize the window, etc.

However, I know that Apple was never big on customization. That is not their way. Their way is simplicity, so I don't see any changes coming in that area for a long time.

Overall, OS X is a solid system. Maybe they should implement address randomization like in Vista, as the lack of it makes OS X easier to exploit: http://www.osnews.com/story/21171/Miller_on_Mac_OS_X_Chrome_Firefox...


For me, I've never been big on customisation; I might install some software and at the most change the background or something else inside preferences but beyond that I prefer not to fiddle with the stuff under the hood. I have a belief that engineers at Microsoft and Apple have made decisions based on more information than I could ever possible have the privilege of understanding. I know my limits and don't go where I'm clueless about.

At the end of the day I really have to ask myself to what degree do end users really care about customisation outside of backgrounds and stuff. If Apple make their operating system applicable for the bulk of people sitting in the middle, I hardly think that it warrants them allocating funds just to get the last 10% or so interested.

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RE: Customizable OS X
by DavidSan on Sun 10th May 2009 04:43 in reply to "Customizable OS X"
DavidSan Member since:
2008-11-18

You pretty much said everything about Mac Pro that I can think of.

As for OS X, I am not a Mac user, so what I would like for it is to be more customizable. That would allow me to make it more PC-like (maybe I should say Windows like). You know, move the window control buttons to the right, get maximize button to actually maximize the window, etc.

However, I know that Apple was never big on customization. That is not their way. Their way is simplicity, so I don't see any changes coming in that area for a long time.

Overall, OS X is a solid system. Maybe they should implement address randomization like in Vista, as the lack of it makes OS X easier to exploit: http://www.osnews.com/story/21171/Miller_on_Mac_OS_X_Chrome_Firefox...


Interesting... Considering the fact, Macintosh was years ahead Windows and, implemented those widgets that way... Windows implemented differently to differentiate (To the right, and not to the left). But if you see it closely, it is just a matter of taste.

And...Address randomization is implemented in Mac OS X Leopard, the problem is different... It is not fully implemented yet and not fully effective. But it's there.

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RE[2]: Customizable OS X
by drstorm on Sun 10th May 2009 11:38 in reply to "RE: Customizable OS X"
drstorm Member since:
2009-04-24

Interesting... Considering the fact, Macintosh was years ahead Windows and, implemented those widgets that way... Windows implemented differently to differentiate (To the right, and not to the left).

Windows originally had the close button on the left. (You had to double click it, though.) It might be true that it was moved to the right in order to be different from Mac.

But if you see it closely, it is just a matter of taste.

I couldn't agree more. It doesn't matter who is historically "right". What matters is allowing people to use their computers the way they are used to, and the way they like.
Linux is probably the best in this respect. Unfortunately, it is usually difficult to make it work just right for you, but once you get it right, it's great. ;)

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