Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 11th May 2009 08:46 UTC
Intel Microsoft isn't the only company in the technology industry with a monopoly. Its partner in crime, Intel, has often been accused of monopoly abuse as well, and is currently under scrutiny by the same European Commission who fined Microsoft. Sources have told eWeek (which generally has a good track record) that Intel will indeed be found guilty this week of abusing its monopoly position to stifle the competition.
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RE: Comment by flanque
by TechGeek on Mon 11th May 2009 14:47 UTC in reply to "Comment by flanque"
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While I dont deny that Intel may have abused its monopoly, AMD did at least as much to hurt itself as Intel has. There are many people who like me won't buy AMD because they relied on VIA to make their chipsets. VIA makes or at least did make, pure crap. In all my years building PCs, I have never had a board built with Via tectnology that hasn't crapped out before its time except one. And that one had the KT133a chipset which was so messed up that I threw away the board.

I have Intel boards that got tossed around in boxes for years, no static bad, no protection. Fired them up and they worked just fine.

YMMV, but there is a reason I choose Intel.

Edited 2009-05-11 14:48 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by flanque
by bannor99 on Mon 11th May 2009 17:33 in reply to "RE: Comment by flanque"
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2005-09-15

MMDHV ( My mileage definitely has varied ) but it seems
that your experience with AMD and the chipset problems are quite out of date.

Have you built an AMD system since 2001?
The first AMD system I built, back in 97, still works
although it's really too slow to be practical anymore.

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RE[3]: Comment by flanque
by TechGeek on Mon 11th May 2009 18:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by flanque"
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2006-01-14

You are right to some degree. The last Via board I had that crapped out was a 2.8 GHz P4 board. Not AMD's fault, I admit. However, how many times and how recently should I have gotten burned for it to be ok to use AMD again. I am sorry, but the sad truth (in my opinion) is that buying AMD is a crap shoot. When I buy Intel, I know that while I may pay more, I am getting parts that will last far longer than I ever have need. I still have old P3 MBs kicking around that work, although their uses are getting few and far between.

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RE[3]: Comment by flanque
by dragossh on Mon 11th May 2009 19:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by flanque"
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2008-12-16

Have you built an AMD system since 2001?
The first AMD system I built, back in 97, still works
although it's really too slow to be practical anymore.

Have you tried putting BeOS or Haiku on that? I'm sure it would fly if your hardware is recognized.

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RE[2]: Comment by flanque
by 0brad0 on Tue 12th May 2009 06:28 in reply to "RE: Comment by flanque"
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2007-05-05

While I dont deny that Intel may have abused its monopoly, AMD did at least as much to hurt itself as Intel has. There are many people who like me won't buy AMD because they relied on VIA to make their chipsets. VIA makes or at least did make, pure crap. In all my years building PCs, I have never had a board built with Via tectnology that hasn't crapped out before its time except one. And that one had the KT133a chipset which was so messed up that I threw away the board.

I have Intel boards that got tossed around in boxes for years, no static bad, no protection. Fired them up and they worked just fine.

YMMV, but there is a reason I choose Intel.


I've had tons of boards for AMD CPUs all the way back to K6's and never had a problem. I've definitely had Intel boards (especially actual Intel boards) die on me.

One serious problem I have with Intel is how they introduce a new socket type for practically EVERY CPU they release. It is so beyond annoying. -1000 points Intel.

Also VIA hasn't been in the picture for A LONG time for chipsets for AMD boards. The market shifted to almost as bad NVIDIA chipsets and Broadcom chipsets but nowadays since buying ATI they're pushing their own chipset division to build chipsets for all system types which is a great thing.

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