Linked by David Adams on Tue 12th May 2009 16:43 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes As you may know, the global economic depression has hit the media hard, due in large part to the fact that ad rates are in the toilet. OSNews is in the same boat. Despite the fact that we still have good advertisers, our income from advertising this year will only be a fraction of what it was last year. We probably won't make enough to cover our costs. Other news sites, as they've seen revenue decrease, have responded with more, and more intrusive, advertising. We don' t want to do that. We feel we have a covenant with our readers. If you'll be respectful of our need to run ads, we'll be respectful of your need to read the site without having ads shoved down your throat. Please read on, for more discussion of our ad "covenant," and a plea for help, including a plea to all Adblock users to please unblock OSNews.
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Survial of the fittest
by kragil on Tue 12th May 2009 17:59 UTC
kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

I am so accustomed to an ad-free internet. I just cannot stand _any_ ads. I even use the "hide elements" adblock extension to block DIVs that mean nothing to me for the sites I visit often (safes bandwidth for everybody ;) )
I think it is better to tell you the truth that I won't disable my adblocker for anybody. What I will do is digg OSnews content etc.
I would accept a LWN.NET-like model where you pay for early access. LWN.NET seems to have no problems at the moment.

I think in this "crisis" a lot of sites without good content will just die. Only the most successful and dedicated will survive, but I don't think web will be poorer once the "crisis" is over. Just a little natural selection ;)

How much does it cost to run this website? Here in Germany hosting/bandwidth is dirt cheap. Maybe you should switch hosters. Or isn't hosting the biggest cost?

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RE: Survial of the fittest
by Liquidator on Tue 12th May 2009 18:08 in reply to "Survial of the fittest"
Liquidator Member since:
2007-03-04

Many hosting companies want to host web sites like OSNews for free, just for public relations. I'm sure OSNews is no exception. I wonder what other expenses there are. Not staff, that we know, because Thom and others work on their free time on a volunteer basis.

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RE: Survial of the fittest
by David on Tue 12th May 2009 18:14 in reply to "Survial of the fittest"
David Member since:
1997-10-01

I don't want to give anyone the impression that OSNews is in danger of ceasing publication. We do pay for a hosted webserver and we keep a sysadmin on retainer to help with managing it and keeping it running smoothly. We're paying less than the industry average for those services. most OSNews content and labor is provided by volunteers, though we usually have a budget for our key contributors to get new computers and other hardware from time to time, as well as cover travel expenses to conferences and communication expenses. We would also like to be able to compensate the contributors of feature articles. Having our revenue dry up won't make us take OSNews offline. I'll pay the hosting out of my own pocket if I need to. But it will make us have to scale back our plans for expanding our original articles, and make us unable to reward major contributors with the modest payment or hardware perks we'd like to.

I'd prefer to keep OSNews free and not ask for donations. But we hope to have some t-shirts and other merchandise we can sell soon to allow people to support the site directly.

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RE[2]: Survial of the fittest
by Liquidator on Tue 12th May 2009 18:18 in reply to "RE: Survial of the fittest"
Liquidator Member since:
2007-03-04

A "store" section with books on operating systems, programming, sysadmin, as well as CD-ROMs of the latest Linux distros + t-shirts and stuff...It you sell valuable products, I would surely buy. Don't sell junk, like some other sites.

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RE[2]: Survial of the fittest
by Dirge on Tue 12th May 2009 18:25 in reply to "RE: Survial of the fittest"
Dirge Member since:
2005-07-14

The gear you see from cafe press such as mugs and t-shirts look gimmicky. I wouldn't be encouraged to purchase such things.

I would prefer to make small donations on an annual basis. Alternatively I might buy a more valuable item such as a book or CD if it directly supported the site.

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RE[2]: Survial of the fittest
by hollovoid on Wed 13th May 2009 03:22 in reply to "RE: Survial of the fittest"
hollovoid Member since:
2005-09-21

I would buy a t-shirt if offered.

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