Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th May 2009 10:23 UTC
Intel As was already revealed by eWeek earlier this week, the EU has imposed a massive fine on Intel for abusing its monopoly position. The fine is larger than the one given to Microsoft: 1.06 billion EUR, or 1.44 billion USD, opposed to the 899 million EUR fine imposed upon Microsoft.
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RE[2]: Of course
by kaiwai on Wed 13th May 2009 16:20 UTC in reply to "RE: Of course"
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

"Users not being able to install all the windows programs that they already paid for"

Users don’t install software on netbooks> The majority don’t because it doesn’t have a CD drive, and they’re not used to the idea of software not coming on CDs. The only software I’ve seen users install is either Skype, or MSN.

The only valid reason I could see an average users wanting XP over Linux for is that the Linux software bundled with the machine isn’t MSN enough, and doesn’t support webcam; as you've said.


With that being said, the integration is abysmal. Compare the Windows XP configuration and work done then compare it to their Linux version; I can see why some Linux advocates just say, "if you're not going to do it properly - don't even try" - the half baked attempts have basically given Linux a bad rap as the operating system that couldn't step up to the challenge (when in reality it is the OEM's at fault).

I'll put money on it, if there was an OEM who spent a little time fine tuning and making sure it all works out of the box - spending some time making sure that there is good integration; and it might actually involve hiring a dozen programmers to contribute back code to the linux kernel and open source stack - maybe license CODECs so that the out of the box experience is as smooth as possible.

The problem is that OEM vendors expect a solution to drop out of the sky instead of realising that this is their chance to make a unique experience for their customers - something that makes their product stand out from the rest. For those wondering, yes, I will pay extra for something that works well out of the box over something that appears to be thrown together in a hurry.

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RE[3]: Of course
by WorknMan on Wed 13th May 2009 18:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Of course"
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2005-11-13

With that being said, the integration is abysmal. Compare the Windows XP configuration and work done then compare it to their Linux version; I can see why some Linux advocates just say, "if you're not going to do it properly - don't even try" - the half baked attempts have basically given Linux a bad rap as the operating system that couldn't step up to the challenge (when in reality it is the OEM's at fault).


Well, Windows has the same problem on desktops and laptops, with OEMs loading the machines down with bad shoddy drivers and software ('crapplets') that nobody wants. The end result is a brand new machine that runs like it's 5 years old, and people think it's Windows that is problem, where if they'd only reformat and install with good drivers, most (if not all) if their problems would go away.

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RE[4]: Of course
by kaiwai on Wed 13th May 2009 18:20 in reply to "RE[3]: Of course"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Well, Windows has the same problem on desktops and laptops, with OEMs loading the machines down with bad shoddy drivers and software ('crapplets') that nobody wants. The end result is a brand new machine that runs like it's 5 years old, and people think it's Windows that is problem, where if they'd only reformat and install with good drivers, most (if not all) if their problems would go away.


I don't know who you are purchasing off but when I had a Lenovo Thinkpad T61p, all I needed to do was uninstall some crapware, run the updater, and voila, my computer went to sleep and woke up without any problems, my computer boot time was snappy, all the hardware was fully supported rather than partially supported as with the case of Linux, the implementation of usbvc and missing features that the standard provides by the linux implementation doesn't.

Compare that to the Linux world where even preinstalled Linux versions can't sleep properly when the lid is closed, when the update server is broken (SLED update server was broken, I notified Novell of it but it was never fixed, the net result is they lost a contract for over 300 users), the lack of fully supporting the features of the hardware, the poor quality of the drivers as with the case of the ath5k (in the acer aspire review I did) where bugs are reported but never fixed.

Compared to Linux, Windows is a walk in the park.

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