Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th May 2009 20:59 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu When Dell announced a shift in its Linux strategy last week, accompanied by a new netbook, many wondered why Dell insisted on pre-loading Ubuntu 8.04, instead of newer versions of the popular Linux distribution such as 8.10 or 9.04. BetaNews contacted Dell about it, and Dell replied explaining their rationale behind opting for 8.04.
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Glad to hear it!
by nathbeadle on Wed 20th May 2009 21:10 UTC
nathbeadle
Member since:
2006-08-08

I'm glad they are going down this road. I'd love to see a well defined and stable distro used and developed than having the newest put onto computers every 6 months and having things break. 8.04 is still supported so I don't see why people thing it's old and outdated. Dell is still putting XP on computers and that is almost a decade old now!!!

Kudos to Dell, looking forward to what they offer as they step out from the rest in using Linux!

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RE: Glad to hear it!
by Delgarde on Wed 20th May 2009 21:47 in reply to "Glad to hear it!"
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

Dell is still putting XP on computers and that is almost a decade old now!!!


Only because there's nothing better available...

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RE[2]: Glad to hear it!
by daedliusswartz on Wed 20th May 2009 22:15 in reply to "RE: Glad to hear it!"
daedliusswartz Member since:
2007-05-28

Windows 7 will change that.

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RE[2]: Glad to hear it!
by Jasprov on Thu 21st May 2009 04:17 in reply to "RE: Glad to hear it!"
Jasprov Member since:
2009-02-23

" Dell is still putting XP on computers and that is almost a decade old now!!!


Only because there's nothing better available...
"

I would have agreed, until about 6 months after Vista's release, and stable drivers caught up... There's been nothing wrong with it since, especially after SP1.

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RE[2]: Glad to hear it!
by bosco_bearbank on Thu 21st May 2009 11:56 in reply to "RE: Glad to hear it!"
bosco_bearbank Member since:
2005-10-12

" Dell is still putting XP on computers and that is almost a decade old now!!!


Only because there's nothing better available...
"
Wait a minute... Ubuntu 8.04 is better

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RE: Glad to hear it!
by ggeldenhuys on Thu 21st May 2009 07:13 in reply to "Glad to hear it!"
ggeldenhuys Member since:
2006-11-13

I can't agree more. I just downgraded from 9.04 to 8.04.2 simply because 9.04 is quite buggy. I reported many graphics and font problems in the RC release, but none of those were fixed before the final release.

I know of numerous people that did the same. 8.04.2 is rock solid! Not to mention that 8.04 is a LTS release, so it will be supported for a long time still. Good choice Dell!

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RE[2]: Glad to hear it!
by LanceHaverkamp on Sat 23rd May 2009 15:59 in reply to "RE: Glad to hear it!"
LanceHaverkamp Member since:
2009-05-23

I can't agree more. I just downgraded from 9.04 to 8.04.2 simply because 9.04 is quite buggy.


9.04 is unusable buggy for a lot of people. MEPIS, or it's parent, Debian Stable are far more stable/reliable than even LTS.

Edited 2009-05-23 16:03 UTC

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RE: Glad to hear it!
by UltraZelda64 on Thu 21st May 2009 07:31 in reply to "Glad to hear it!"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

8.04 is still supported so I don't see why people thing it's old and outdated.

I wouldn't argue that Ubuntu 8.04 itself, the distribution, is "outdated"; after all it is, as you said, still supported. However, by now several pieces of software included in its repositories are likely outdated.

For example... Stellarium, a planetarium program, was somewhere around 0.9.1 in Ubuntu 8.10, while the latest official "supported" version of the program was 0.10.2. This latest version could be downloaded in binary format for Windows and Mac OS X, while Linux (and other) OS users were forced to download and attempt to compile sources if their distribution didn't have it.

After giving up compilation of this program, I ended up having to wait until Ubuntu 9.04 (the current latest version) to be able to use this latest version of the program. This was extremely annoying to me, as the new version had some nice new features, was the recommended version *and* the Windows installer makes it braindead easy to install on Windows.

Sure... you may argue that this is an obscure program. Okay, so maybe it is. But it's a good enough example, and it's certainly not the only program suffering this problem. I noticed Seamonkey lags behind also, since apparently they're too focused on Firefox. Even Dillo has released a new 2.0 version (rewrite), and the last time I checked Ubuntu *still* has the old version. A Web browser is certainly something *everyone* should keep up to date, and in fact Seamonkey will bug you that it's outdated unless you change the startup page, and yet Ubuntu still fails to keep it up to date.

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RE[2]: Glad to hear it!
by wargum on Thu 21st May 2009 10:00 in reply to "RE: Glad to hear it!"
wargum Member since:
2006-12-15

After giving up compilation of this program, I ended up having to wait until Ubuntu 9.04 (the current latest version) to be able to use this latest version of the program. This was extremely annoying to me, as the new version had some nice new features, was the recommended version *and* the Windows installer makes it braindead easy to install on Windows.


You are absolutely right, this is unacceptable. Same with Songbird on CentOS for me. Unfortunatly, this is a drawback from the Linux philosophy "Release often, release early". APIs break, not enough testing is being done, users can just keep constantly updating their whole distribution or not use some programs. It sucks, big time...

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