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OSNews, Generic OSes Over the years, we've occasionally run an "Ask OSNews" feature, wherein a reader asks us a question and we answer it publicly. Lately I've really been enjoying Slate's Dear Prudence advice column and the ever-interesting Straight Dope, and I thought we should see if we can get more OSNews readers to submit questions, and turn Ask OSNews into a more-regular thing. If your question falls outside of our domain expertise, we'll try to track down an expert to help out. And of course, our responses will always be supplemented by further advice from OSNews readers in the comments. Questions are welcome on any topic ranging from OSes and computing to science and geek culture. Contact us with your questions. (Please include "Ask OSNews" in the subject). Today's question is from a young student in Hungary who's seduced by the faraway siren song of Apple's marketing and wonders, "should I switch?"
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Windows Sucks
Member since:
2005-11-10

"You are avoiding the point here: Apple's are expensive.Agreed, Windows is not very useful out-of-the-box but there is so much free software out there that it doesn't matter that much. If you buy Windows, you get 5 years worth of service packs (XP), Apple makes you pay every 18 months if you want to upgrade."

Yes Mac's are expensive, but they last longer and have a much better resale value then a better Windows machine. So if I get a Mac book for $1000 and a better Dell for $800 after 3 years my Mac will be worth more if I want to sell it.

Also the Mac OS does come out every 18 months, looks like MS is following that now also. BUT for the full Mac OS its $129. Been that Way since 2000. With Windows you have to wait till the day of release to figure out if the price for a similar version of Windows will cost %5 or %10 more then the last version of Windows which is going to be no less then $200 if you want a good version.

Also I am still using Tiger on half my machines still which came out in April of 2005 and its still fully supported by Apple. Each version is supported for almost 5 years even though the new version comes out during that time.

Oh and lord forbid if you want to go from XP to Windows 7. You have to perform back flips. LOL! While I can move from almost any version of OS X to almost every new version so far with almost no issues. Even if I want to start from scratch its simple:

1. Make an image of the hard drive to a USB drive using the disk utility. (Boot from the USB drive to make sure it's bootable)

2. Wipe the drive and install the new Mac OS.

3. Keep the USB drive with the bootable image plugged in, boot with the new OS, in the set up the OS will ask you if you have an older Mac, it will see the USB drive with the image as an older Mac and ask you if you want to move all your data, files, settings etc to the new install.

4. Reboot and you are like new with the new OS and all your old settings. If you have a problem with the new set up you can just boot from the USB image and image your old install back to the machine from the USB drive.

Try that 4 step process on a Windows machine. Your data will be in the ether. LOL! Only thing more simple then upgrading a Mac or moving to a new Mac is upgrading your iPhone OS.

I mean using a Mac is like using an alarm clock. You plug it in and go. It just works. Shoot the hacked version of Mac OS 10.5.7 I have on my MSI Wind U100 works better then Linux and Windows 7 beta on the same machine. This also goes against the fake point that the Mac OS only runs good because Apple controls the hardware. I also have a hacked version of Mac OS on my Dell GX620 desktop. Works fine.

The point of my post is that price doesn't mean anything. The usability is where its at. Consumer Reports and other rating companies almost always rate Apple near or at the top in Quality and Customer satisfaction.

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bobo123 Member since:
2009-05-26

Now that Mac went with Intel, your wonderful machines and Tiger software's days are numbered. In a few short years you will have to upgrade, as a long time Mac user friend of mine is finding out. All the new stuff is coming out Intel and only a few things are Universal. Still you can build a Hackintosh for $400 and run stuff faster than a Mac at three times that price. I run Leopard, Win7, and Linux all on the same cheap box with a Cameleon boot loader front end. That way I get the best of all worlds without emulators and virtual machine limitations. And I have to tell you Leopard is no better than Ubuntu or Win7 when it is all said and done. They are just a means for running the software applications you put on them. The PC has the majority of good free applications simply because there are so many developers working on them. Linux is next, followed by a few good graphic programs for the Mac. The only one I know worth while that is not on PC or Ubuntu is final cut. I can do just about everything else on my Intel Core i7 in neck break speed. Do not think you can do much watercooling and overclocking on that vanilla Mac of yours.

Edited 2009-05-26 21:22 UTC

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Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

Now that Mac went with Intel, your wonderful machines and Tiger software's days are numbered. In a few short years you will have to upgrade, as a long time Mac user friend of mine is finding out.


Ummmmm, Tiger runs on Intel just fine?? If your Mac came with Tiger (Like my 2 GHZ core duo Intel Imac) or you can get an Intel version of Mac OS from ebay or craigslist on the cheap (But you can also get Leopard)

I mean Tiger has been out for quite some time now (Since April of 2005) and is still supported with patches etc until Snow Leopard comes out (And maybe longer then that)

So I wont HAVE to upgrade anytime soon. I can choose to upgrade if I like. Its not like my software is just gonna stop working. I would most likely upgrade my Tiger machines when they stop issuing patches.

As far a Windows goes. XP is is on lifesupport and only because MS knows Vista sucks. But once Windows 7 gets to rolling XP is done for and Vista not long behind.

And I don't need to Watercool my Macs they run just fine with out all that. And you can't in a million years tell me with a straight face that you have an Ubuntu machine that runs as well as a Mac. Ubuntu has more bugs then a roach motel. Shoot if you can even get the sound working 100% on an Ubuntu machine I would be shocked.

Windows 7 is pretty good so far. But I want to actually keep my data from being stolen. And no matter if you say its security or security through obscurity my data is still safer on a Mac. And Windows XP is some kiddy stuff compared to Leopard.

The thing I love about my Mac is that I have NEVER, Ever crashed one of my Macs in day to day use. (That includes patching etc) The Mac OS is pretty darn solid. Not perfect by far but more stable then Windows Vista and any desktop version of Linux.

Edited 2009-05-27 03:44 UTC

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