Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 28th May 2009 14:23 UTC, submitted by hotice
KDE While most people focus on Microsoft Office and OpenOffice.org as being each other's competitors, there's a third player in this market: KOffice. While KOffice is obviously geared towards use on KDE, it's available for Windows, Mac OS X, and GNOME-based distributions as well, making it much more platform-independent than Microsoft's Office suite. Version 2.0.0 was released today, and comes with a whole boatload of improvements.
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Comment by dagw
by dagw on Thu 28th May 2009 14:40 UTC
dagw
Member since:
2005-07-06

They have learned from KDE4's mistake: they state as clearly as humanly possible that KOffice 2.0.0 is not aimed at end users just yet.

They obviously haven't learned from KDE4's mistake. If they had they would have called it Koffice 2 Release candidate 1 or Developer release 1 or Test release 1 and made clear from the name that it's not ready for end users.

That being said, I'm super excited. I've always really koffice, and have always felt that it had great potential. I also felt that it's never really lived up to its potential with too many show stopping bugs or missing features. Hopefully Koffice 2 will be a great first step towards a great office suite.

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RE: Comment by dagw
by Luminair on Thu 28th May 2009 15:49 in reply to "Comment by dagw"
Luminair Member since:
2007-03-30

exactly. I think thom missed the point of the whole kde4 naming debacle when it happened

the distance between kde or koffice versions is measured in months. everyone else calls the test versions of the software "BETA", ever hear of it?

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RE[2]: Comment by dagw
by Ventajou on Thu 28th May 2009 16:13 in reply to "RE: Comment by dagw"
Ventajou Member since:
2006-10-31

Don't forget though, in the Open Source world almost everything is Beta... maybe that's why they just don't bother.

Edited 2009-05-28 16:13 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by dagw
by SlackerJack on Thu 28th May 2009 19:47 in reply to "RE: Comment by dagw"
SlackerJack Member since:
2005-11-12

Still can't get over the 4.0 thing can you?

Apple's "Think Different" asks people to do such things, rather than do things like everyone else. if we didn't have people trying new methods, the world would be a boring place with no innovation and people following other people like sheep.

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RE[2]: Comment by dagw
by lemur2 on Thu 28th May 2009 23:42 in reply to "RE: Comment by dagw"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

exactly. I think thom missed the point of the whole kde4 naming debacle when it happened the distance between kde or koffice versions is measured in months. everyone else calls the test versions of the software "BETA", ever hear of it?


KOffice 2 went through about six beta and release candidate versions.

What is there is tested. The thing that makes KOffice 2 not suitable for most end users is a lack of features implemented yet, it is not a lack of testing.

PS: Correction. Seven beta versions:

http://dot.kde.org/2009/03/05/koffice-20-beta-7-released

... and AFAIK one release candidate:

http://www.kubuntu.org/news/koffice-2-rc

It's most certainly not stable and release ready.


Au contraire, I'd say it was very likely to be better characterised as stable but not yet feature complete.

Edited 2009-05-29 00:01 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by dagw
by Soulbender on Fri 29th May 2009 05:09 in reply to "RE: Comment by dagw"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Microsoft called theirs "Vista" and Apple called theirs "10.0".

Edited 2009-05-29 05:15 UTC

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RE: Comment by dagw
by Soulbender on Thu 28th May 2009 16:18 in reply to "Comment by dagw"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

They obviously haven't learned from KDE4's mistake


Yes, expecting people to comprehend plain English and use their head is clearly the wrong way of doing things.

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RE: Comment by dagw
by broken_symlink on Thu 28th May 2009 20:29 in reply to "Comment by dagw"
broken_symlink Member since:
2005-07-06

Well, I would prefer to have them actually release something that is somewhat usable rather than have them turn into another e17.

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RE: Comment by dagw
by lemur2 on Fri 29th May 2009 01:48 in reply to "Comment by dagw"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

If they had they would have called it Koffice 2 Release candidate 1


They have already had one of those, following after no less than seven betas. Apparently you missed it.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/KOffice-2-0-RC1-Has-Landed-108978.sh...

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RE[2]: Comment by dagw
by dagw on Fri 29th May 2009 09:40 in reply to "RE: Comment by dagw"
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

Apparently you missed it.

Well no I've actually used all the betas, as I've been following the development of koffice for a long time. I had forgotten that they'd already had a release candidate, but my point still stands.

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