Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 26th Sep 2005 13:44 UTC, submitted by kellym
Features, Office "I have noticed these days that the computer market is either falling into some sort of dictatorship or some other power of influence that is forcing the computer market into a no choice market where the choice is handpicked by either some monopoly or by a misperception made by the wrong decision makers in today's computer industry. The computer market of today as we know it is being prefabricated by influence while hypnotizing the public of that influence."
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RE[2]: Not that bad
by japail on Mon 26th Sep 2005 20:19 UTC in reply to "RE: Not that bad"
japail
Member since:
2005-06-30

If everyone that dislikes Microsoft congregates together and writes opinions of Microsoft products that deride it, then that's a biased sample. For an obvious comparison, take the globally-popular red-headed stepchild that is the Fox News Channel. If some commentator on the channel refers to people from France as cheese-eating surrender monkeys then that's probably not statistically unusual for commentators on that network, but it doesn't represent the views of the broader population very accurately.

Though you're of course attacking a straw man to begin with, since the original poster said nothing about a Microsoft bias. That is unless the implication of UFOs to you suggest "bias" rather than "tabloid."

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RE[3]: Not that bad
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 26th Sep 2005 20:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Not that bad"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Japal, don't waste your time on trying to explain to Kelly the concept of bias.. Read this long entry in my blog in which I explain how that Kelly guy attacked me (and Eugenia before me) and OSNews without reasons:

http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2005/09/12/explanation/

Yes, KellyM is the owner of osV.

I posted this story because I hoped it would generate interesting discussion. However, from the low number of replies here, I see that people are very well capable of ignoring the crap articles. Which is good ;) .

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RE[4]: Not that bad
by japail on Mon 26th Sep 2005 20:57 in reply to "RE[3]: Not that bad"
japail Member since:
2005-06-30

Due to the low-quality of previous content on osViews I never read anything there to refrain from providing impressions for what are usually wastes of my time. Upon reading your blog entry, I do find it most-amusing that anyone would suggest that OSNews is anti-Apple. OSNews provides a lot of coverage for Apple and its products, and often in a positive light. I've always considered its staff (even when Eugenia headed up content selection and editorials, and with her criticisms of various Apple decisions) to be pro-Apple. It's just not, well, on the other side of reality which is why the site is of decent-quality and why I read it. I think Kelly could honestly stand to learn something from OSNews if he wants people to read content on his site.

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RE[4]: Not that bad
by kellym on Mon 26th Sep 2005 21:31 in reply to "RE[3]: Not that bad"
kellym Member since:
2005-07-06

Thom,

I didn't attack you at all.

I did however speak to you privately as to how I disagreed with what you are doing.

The fact that you decided to make this a public matter compells me to take it to that level as well.

Lest you get bitter abouyt it after the fact, ... remember... YOU brought this on.

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RE[3]: Not that bad
by kellym on Mon 26th Sep 2005 21:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Not that bad"
kellym Member since:
2005-07-06

"If everyone that dislikes Microsoft congregates together and writes opinions of Microsoft products that deride it, then that's a biased sample."

Agreed. But if a fresh sample continually reiterates the same opinions of the first sample over and over again then anyone that disagrees with the group is the biased one.


"For an obvious comparison, take the globally-popular red-headed stepchild that is the Fox News Channel."

Thats not a good example as that is more of an indicator of a group of journalists dictating what should and should not be on the news. When a handful of journalists dictate what they consider newsworth (as opposed to "the people", you get a much greater liklihood for bias to influence what is being published as well as how its published.


"Though you're of course attacking a straw man to begin with, since the original poster said nothing about a Microsoft bias."

Forgive me but when somebody says that they expected to see, "something with ufo's and bill gates anal probing people" that tends to imply that the site has an anti Microsoft bias."


"rather than "tabloid.""

It's not a tabloid either. Rather, its a barometer of what the technology community is thinking at any given time.

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RE[4]: Not that bad
by japail on Mon 26th Sep 2005 21:48 in reply to "RE[3]: Not that bad"
japail Member since:
2005-06-30

> But if a fresh sample continually reiterates the same
> opinions of the first sample over and over again then
> anyone that disagrees with the group is the biased one.

Please let me know when you've successfully completed any study of statistics.

Further, stop moderating my posts down (most of the downmods on my account I suspect are from you) when they do not violate the guidelines provided. I know you aren't quite as effective now that they've deleted your shill accounts, but it's still childish.

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