Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Jun 2009 17:50 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris The team at Sun behind OpenSolaris has unleashed OpenSolaris 2009.06 upon the world. This new release comes packed with new features, changes, improvements, and fixes, and is the first release of OpenSolaris for SPARC, adding support for UltraSPARC T1, T2 (Sun4v), and UltraSPARC II, III and IV (Sun4u). Read on for some of the improvements that stand out.
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Pay or run unstable
by Formel1Hund on Mon 1st Jun 2009 18:46 UTC
Formel1Hund
Member since:
2005-10-23

If I understand it correctly, one can only get security updates by either buy A subscription, or shift to the dev channel.
That's pay, or run unstable, no thanks.

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RE: Pay or run unstable
by kaiwai on Mon 1st Jun 2009 19:41 in reply to "Pay or run unstable"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

If I understand it correctly, one can only get security updates by either buy A subscription, or shift to the dev channel.
That's pay, or run unstable, no thanks.


There is a reason why someone marked your post down (I didn't do it btw) - there is no need to resort to blatant lying as to the support policy of the free version of OpenSolaris. OpenSolaris receives free security updates and on occasions free feature updates (if the security updates also bring features as well).

So you don't like OpenSolaris - good for you, but lying doesn't exactly bolster your case given that any credibility you might have had is now shot to pieces.

Edited 2009-06-01 19:44 UTC

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RE[2]: Pay or run unstable
by Formel1Hund on Mon 1st Jun 2009 20:07 in reply to "RE: Pay or run unstable"
Formel1Hund Member since:
2005-10-23

Why do you think i don't like Opensolaris, it's the missing updates I don't like, have a look at the last reply :

http://forums.opensolaris.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2872ସ

Why is Firefox not updated ?

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RE[2]: Pay or run unstable
by Jondice on Mon 1st Jun 2009 23:49 in reply to "RE: Pay or run unstable"
Jondice Member since:
2006-09-20

I can verify that OpenSolaris does receive security updates in the release repository. It isn't a lot compared to linux, but this could be a combination of 5 reasons:

1) There aren't as many security wholes in core solaris packages

2) Solaris doesn't use as many bleeding edge packages like Fedora, Ubuntu, etc.

3) Solaris probably doesn't have as many packagers as these more popular linux distributions.

4) And every now and then of course, maybe there is some ignorance or slacking going on, as in the (possible) case of Firefox not being updated to the latest stable release.

5) There just aren't as many packages available for Solaris as there are for linux. This is changing though, but out of all the unix distros linux is still the most friendly for building out of the box stuff - simply because more people use it (devs and end-users alike). Ideally apps would compile without too much difficulty on any UNIX, but there are so many reasons why this may not be the case in reality.

In any case, I would not be too upset over the current state of opensolaris updates.

Edited 2009-06-01 23:49 UTC

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RE: Pay or run unstable
by chekr on Tue 2nd Jun 2009 01:21 in reply to "Pay or run unstable"
chekr Member since:
2005-11-05

If I understand it correctly, one can only get security updates by either buy A subscription, or shift to the dev channel.
That's pay, or run unstable, no thanks.


Mod down for inaccurate information. Both the release and dev branches receive security fixes.

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RE[2]: Pay or run unstable
by Formel1Hund on Wed 3rd Jun 2009 06:24 in reply to "RE: Pay or run unstable"
Formel1Hund Member since:
2005-10-23

Please have a look at the information provided by gjoahnn,
and tell me what's inaccurate.

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RE: Pay or run unstable
by cade on Wed 3rd Jun 2009 01:17 in reply to "Pay or run unstable"
cade Member since:
2009-02-28

It was mentioned ...

"If I understand it correctly, one can only get security updates by either buy A subscription, or shift to the dev channel.
That's pay, or run unstable, no thanks."

I have been using OpenSolaris on my HP xw9300 as a C++ development environment since the 2008.11 release with the "dev" package repository. Believe me, user sessions are stable. The only "issue" I have found was boot-ability (not user session usability) for some "dev" releases and this was solved using the option
-B pci-reprog=off
for the kernel$ line of the grub menu and I am happy for having this option. This is not surprising as Sun did not make my hardware (HP did) but it's good that GRUB accepts options to try and deal with different hardware.


I deal with a very detailed C++/scripting code base (my own code dealing primarily with object database and 3D engine technologies) and OpenSolaris behaves admirably during library/executable builds (debug as well as release builds using the SunStudio tools). My coding work is my "bread and butter" and my computer environment has to work for me. I first investigated OpenSolaris as a potential development environment back in late November 2008. After a period of testing I realised OpenSolaris was the go !

It appears the "unstable" word has scared you.
Rather than trying to only understand the OpenSolaris technology, how about you try it out. I have OpenSolaris on multiple AMD64 (Opteron, AthlonX2) boxes (GeForce and Radeon video cards) and am fine with it.

Sure, hardware is hardware and support can vary.
But this does not change the fact that OpenSolaris, intrinsically, has alot to offer.

It would be a simpler world if many more hardware companies would release their technical documents for their hardware but we do not live in this world.

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