Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Jun 2009 17:50 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris The team at Sun behind OpenSolaris has unleashed OpenSolaris 2009.06 upon the world. This new release comes packed with new features, changes, improvements, and fixes, and is the first release of OpenSolaris for SPARC, adding support for UltraSPARC T1, T2 (Sun4v), and UltraSPARC II, III and IV (Sun4u). Read on for some of the improvements that stand out.
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RE[10]: Pay or run unstable
by gjoahnn on Wed 3rd Jun 2009 12:50 UTC in reply to "RE[9]: Pay or run unstable"
gjoahnn
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2009-06-02

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Backports of new software are a different kettle of fish, but people don't want to install the latest version of OpenSolaris just to get security updates. Every Linux distribution worth its salt is able to do that with its eyes shut.


OpenSolaris and Sun does back ports. Once again you have no idea what you are talking about.
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There are a few backports, mostly of unbundled products for 2008.11. There was not a single security update.
Here is a complete list of changes to the 2008.11 branch since November 2008:

* xvm was added
* xvm-gui was added
* storage-server updated
* amp-dev was updated twice
* webstackui was updated twice
* opends was added
* sunstudioexpress was updated

(source: http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/feed )

The 2008.11 branch has accumulated quite a number of serious security vulnerabilities during that time period (see http://blogs.sun.com/security/category/alerts ). The more serious ones include e.g. Firefox, OpenSSL, and ipfilter. If you make claims, please back them up.

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RE[11]: Pay or run unstable
by akrosdbay on Wed 3rd Jun 2009 16:14 in reply to "RE[10]: Pay or run unstable"
akrosdbay Member since:
2008-06-09



There are a few backports, mostly of unbundled products for 2008.11. There was not a single security update.
Here is a complete list of changes to the 2008.11 branch since November 2008:

* xvm was added
* xvm-gui was added
* storage-server updated
* amp-dev was updated twice
* webstackui was updated twice
* opends was added
* sunstudioexpress was updated

(source: http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/feed )

The 2008.11 branch has accumulated quite a number of serious security vulnerabilities during that time period (see http://blogs.sun.com/security/category/alerts ). The more serious ones include e.g. Firefox, OpenSSL, and ipfilter. If you make claims, please back them up.



segedunum was there to spread more Anti-Sun FUD was claiming Sun lacks the ability to do back ports which apparently any linux distribution can do . The packages you listed are backports so my point stands.

The bottom line is you can run the /dev an be current or wait 6 months to get current if you want free updates. If your business is that critical then you pay to get more frequent security updates in between the 6 month release schedule.

The dev branch is very stable for home users. I have been running it for a few months and have updated bi-weekly whenever the pkg manager notifies me.

If the update to the dev branch fails going back is as simple as typing one beadm command and rebooting.

Running OpenSolaris doesn't leave you without avenues for free security updates. The original claim is not entirely true.

Upgrading to the latest release is painless. pkg image-update and you are done. It clones the entire root file system so if you go back to the previous boot environment ever single block that was changed by the update is reverted to the pre update state.No linux distribution offers that like ZFS can.

OpenSolaris 2008.05,.11 and 2009.06 are still snv builds so they aren't fundamentally different from one another. The SunOS version is still 5.11. It is in active development. The development and release model is not like linux distribution. I admit it is confusing.

Edited 2009-06-03 16:15 UTC

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RE[12]: Pay or run unstable
by segedunum on Wed 3rd Jun 2009 18:30 in reply to "RE[11]: Pay or run unstable"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

segedunum was there to spread more Anti-Sun FUD was claiming Sun lacks the ability to do back ports which apparently any linux distribution can do . The packages you listed are backports so my point stands.

Hmmmmmmm, no, sorry.

For starters, this thread was about security updates to an existing installation rather than going through another installation to get them, and we've established that OpenSolaris fails on that which I said any Linux distribution worth its salt could do - you totally misread that because of your idiotic red mist. That's why I specifically said that backports were a 'different kettle of fish' which you missed completely.

Besides, even the list of backported new applications that you think proves your non-existent point is still quite pathetic, but I digress. Linux distributors aren't great at backports but there is more on offer generally than here.

If your business is that critical then you pay to get more frequent security updates in between the 6 month release schedule.

I can get frequent updates from free Linux distributions. Why should I be using OpenSolaris again?

Running OpenSolaris doesn't leave you without avenues for free security updates.

I'm afraid wriggling won't help you over this. The fact is that there are a ton of critical security updates that should have been made available to OpenSolaris users to upgrade in their existing installations which haven't been. Calling it 'stable' is neither here nor there. Saying that you can get potential free updates from somewhere else is so stupid it isn't even funny. As I'd said, any Linux distribution worth its salt can do this.

Upgrading to the latest release is painless. pkg image-update and you are done.

Errrrrrrrrrrrr, the point being that no one should have to upgrade their entire installation to get security updates and no one has to.

Less of the red mist, eh?

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