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I beg to differ....
I can see at least three valid reasons for ReactOS to keep going (and this is from a Linux-using and occasional BSD-using weenie...
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a) Playing Windows games. At present, if you want to play those but don't want to buy Windows, the options are Wine (running on Linux/*BSD) or ReactOS. Wine has the inside running at present, but ReactOS can still get to a good-enough state to run games.
b) As a security testbed, to see if it is possible to create a Windows-like OS that can be hardened against worms and viruses. If it were possible to port pf to ReactOS then that would be a good start.
c) (Eventually) - as an XP replacement. Ok, I agree that this is likely to be quite a way down the track (I'd guess at least 18 months to 2 years). However, given the progress that the ReactOS devs have made so far, it's possible.
- obsidian
I can see at least three valid reasons for ReactOS to keep going (and this is from a Linux-using and occasional BSD-using weenie...
) a) Playing Windows games. At present, if you want to play those but don't want to buy Windows, the options are Wine (running on Linux/*BSD) or ReactOS. Wine has the inside running at present, but ReactOS can still get to a good-enough state to run games.
- obsidian
Yup, Linux is currently my default OS, which means Windows XP is my gaming OS. If ReactOS could run games in the future, I might use it.
Ridiculous comment. Of course it is a useful project. It *does* take time, but it's a project that many people will use in a few years, because it's a clone of the *most popular* operating system around. What I suggest is take a few Linux developers, have them learn about Win32 and give the Reactos team a hand until it reaches the stable version, then resume work on Linux (if still interested). Now, *that* would be useful, and many more people would benefit from the collaboration and could use a Windows replacement that works for them.
I don't understand the relationship between Linux and Reactos here, why not suggest BSD developers down tools and work on Reactos?
I personally don't use Windows and have no requirement for a Windows clone, so your suggestion seems utter madness to me.
Oh now wait a minute, your were joking in your post right?
Why are they wasting their time doing this project? Really, this is not going anywhere.
I imagine you will be flamed to death for this comment...
Here's a healthy dose of skepticism:
1) Wine has been in development for 16 years. It is useful. It works, but not very well. How much better can we expect ReactOS (which shares a lot of code with Wine anyway) to do? Can ReactOS work better than Linux + Wine? Is kernel compatibility (vs API) the real issue?
2) In my experience, projects either come up with something you can "almost" use within 1-2 years or they never do. Examples: Linux (went from 0.01 to v1.0 within a couple of years), FreeDOS. Contra-examples: Hurd, SkyOS, Haiku etc.
3) ReactOS has been in development for 11 years.
How do you know Haiku will never release a working, usable version 1.0?
The reason operating systems take a long time to reach 1.0 is because operating system development is not magic.
The NT design is very strong and the fundementals haven't changed since the days of cutler.
Unless Microsoft drop the NT architecture, then reactos will always be relevant.
The inner workings of Windows 7 aren't all that different from windows XP. Once reactos has a stable base the extra work to get Vista/win7 only software to work will include adding any new API's (some of which reactos already supports) and adding support for the new driver model.
So, the moving target reactos is chasing isn't moving quite as fast as people believe.
On the contrary, Microsoft dropping NT would make ReactOS more relevant than ever. There will be vital code written for NT running for decades to come. Once ReactOS becomes the only windows 2000/XP compatible OS with drivers for the latest hardware and with regular updates it will take off in a massive way.
Fundamentals haven't change - you need to look at where they verred off course in 4.0 for the sake of speed as a prime example of what happens when management start to get involved with things they know nothing about or make decisions that are dogmatically driven based on 'market research' rather than the right course of action based on a long term perspective.
Maybe they do it because they like the idea of having windows drivers installed instead of sitting in linux forums asking all day .
Furthermore i like to add that Linux would kick ass if some cool asm-hacker would remake the mlinux kernel so that it ran all kinds of windows inf/dll drivers and strenghten directx support.
But until that eggheads realize that we'll keep run games on windows or torture ourselves in winex and give linux shit about how some of our hardware don't work.
I imagine it would be useful in a developing country like mine where the vast majority who want to use computers cannot afford even the cheapest Windows license but would like to use Win32 applications. I for one have tried an older beta and will try the latest beta again along with some applcations to see if I can deploy it on retired PCs here.







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I imagine that these guys from ReactOS are very intelligent.
Why are they wasting their time doing this project? Really, this is not going anywhere. By the time they have a consumer ready version, Windows will be in #15 or whatever name Microsoft finds for it.
Just drop it. It is useless. No one, except a couple dozens hobbiest will ever try it.
Do some work on some meaningful project and use your talents for something that will really make a difference in software engineer and design.