Linked by Kroc Camen on Thu 4th Jun 2009 22:34 UTC
Opera Software Opera have announced the release of Opera 10 beta. New engine, new features, but I'm more concerned about where Opera 10 fits into Opera's history, and certainly their future. Opera have never made any massive strides in marketshare and is Opera 10 really going to change any of that? Read More to find out.
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WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

Firefox run slower with more addons/extension to reach the level of Opera.

Like what? Sure, Opera has an excellent rendering engine, it's a whole lot faster then FF, but didn't see any features that I'd miss with any other browser. For example mail and bittorrent clients shouldn't be built-in to the browser IMHO, they should be separate apps.

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metalinx Member since:
2009-06-04

It should NOT be built-in if it slow down the browser!

You don't bother if you don't use them. They are not affect to Opera performance.

I don't deny that every browser have its own advantages, and I use Firefox for some extension that I must use web-service or not easy to do with Opera.

But, what make Opera my choice, and Firefox or other can't do better:

* Sessions manager: stable, automatic recovery, easy to use.

* I use many tabs, too. And I have no problem with tab cycling, Ctrl+Tab or Ctrl+Shift+Tab for cycle forward/backward, it's likely scrolling in iPod (my opinion).

It's efficient if you have 10xtabs.

Of course, Firefox is better if you have less than 10 tabs.

Bonus, you can use "tab cylce" feature in every tabbed windows of Opera, not only pages window.

* Trash, better and better.

* Feeds reader, I use feed reader very much.

* Bookmarklet + Buttons, really cool feature.

* Searching in address bar and QuickFind.

* Fit to Width, cached image (easy way), author/user mod.

* Adblock, or Noscript???

I use Bfilter, very fast, easily configurable and can use with every browser.

Opera can disable/enable plugins (flash, ... etc), Java, javascript, sound, gift with one key F12.

* Also site preference, I like this feature!

How many extensions can do these???

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DeadFishMan Member since:
2006-01-09

Firefox run slower with more addons/extension to reach the level of Opera.

Like what? Sure, Opera has an excellent rendering engine, it's a whole lot faster then FF, but didn't see any features that I'd miss with any other browser. For example mail and bittorrent clients shouldn't be built-in to the browser IMHO, they should be separate apps.


I did not use Opera's mail client too much to have much of an informed opinion about it, but I kind of like it: it is unobtrusive, fast and does what it is supposed to do remarkably well, I have to say. I don't see any problem with having it deeply integrated with the browser, but don't see any good argument to have it there either.

My pet peeve with your comment was about the BitTorrent bit. Sure, BT is a P2P protocol and as such it is not the most obvious thing to have embedded on a web browser. But when you think about it, BT differs greatly from other P2P protocols/clients in that it NEEDS to work together with a browser to work properly (you have to visit a tracker through a web browser to open up .torrent files, after all*) so it is nice to have it integrated with the web browser as well. As anything that is related to Opera, it is fast, small, light on resources and efficient. That's hardly something to be ashamed of.

It may not have all the features of a dedicated BitTorrent client such as Azureus but is about on par with Transmission, which is more than enough for the occasional download.

Having said that, I pretty much agree with everything that you said about Opera in a previous post: it is insanely fast, it renders most pages well these days and many of the meaningful features that people have to look up Firefox extensions for added functionality are already built-in. In a nutshell, it is a darn good browser! The only reason that I still cannot adopt it for my daily use instead of FF is that Opera's adblock solution is not nearly as good as Firefox'. Yes, it is possible to make it almost work as AdBlock - you have to export AdBlock's rules to a file and then set it up manually into Opera - but you have to keep doing it manually on a weekly basis at least if you want the same results.

The day that Opera put up something as good as AdBlock into their browser will be the day that Firefox will die on my machines (except for the occasional compatibility testing, of course)

* Yes, I realize that not everybody load their .torrent files from web trackers, but those are too far few and between that I suspect that it would not matter too much for the typical use case.

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minusf Member since:
2009-06-07

$ opera -nomail

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