Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 8th Jun 2009 18:02 UTC
Apple At the WWDC today, Apple has lifted the veil on a number of features of its upcoming operating system, Snow Leopard. Most of the work on Snow Leopard has gone into under-the-hood technologies and optimisations, but there are also a number of interface tweaks. The company also updated some of its laptops, while also lowering their prices. We got all the news from MacRumorsLive.com.
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NathanHill
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2006-10-06


Tell that Grandma you got switched over to Mac 'cause its easier then windows' about all that and I bet the reaction is 'meh.' My logic isn't flawed at all, you keep assuming that I think Windows is better - I don't. Just because you drink the magic kool-aid doesn't make it interesting to the rest of us. Please tell me what all these great changes are - I don't see any in the feature list. The 64bit/Cocoa changes have NO value to the customer... they may an update from now, but this service pack is not worth $29 to most people. Get the next version and save yourself $29.


My grandma doesn't have a computer.

I'm not sure what your counter argument means. Who is this mythical end user?

I am a customer, and those changes matter to me. Grand Central, OpenCL, Cocoa Finder, 64-bit system, and all the little cool things - like expose in the dock, improved services menu, quicktime getting a makeover, and speed. Oh, yes, speed is awesome. Leopard is already pretty fast - gonna make it faster? Nice. I'd pay $29 easily for some software to speed up my Mac.

I guess, I am really curious as to why folks would be upset with Apple about this - is it because you use older hardware (like me, PPC Mac) and you wish you could have a faster Leopard too?

Or are you angry about giving Apple or other companies money?

Or do you think OSes should be free? I'm not sure.

We've already established this is way more than a service pack upgrade - moving from 32-bit to 64-bit is way more complicated than some bug fixes. Leopard isn't invalidated for those who don't want to upgrade. And on top of that, it's only $29... which is like the price of a steak dinner for two. Awesome. What's not to like?

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rhetoric.sendmemoney Member since:
2006-01-22

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Tell that Grandma you got switched over to Mac 'cause its easier then windows' about all that and I bet the reaction is 'meh.' My logic isn't flawed at all, you keep assuming that I think Windows is better - I don't. Just because you drink the magic kool-aid doesn't make it interesting to the rest of us. Please tell me what all these great changes are - I don't see any in the feature list. The 64bit/Cocoa changes have NO value to the customer... they may an update from now, but this service pack is not worth $29 to most people. Get the next version and save yourself $29.


My grandma doesn't have a computer.

I'm not sure what your counter argument means. Who is this mythical end user?

I am a customer, and those changes matter to me. Grand Central, OpenCL, Cocoa Finder, 64-bit system, and all the little cool things - like expose in the dock, improved services menu, quicktime getting a makeover, and speed. Oh, yes, speed is awesome. Leopard is already pretty fast - gonna make it faster? Nice. I'd pay $29 easily for some software to speed up my Mac.

I guess, I am really curious as to why folks would be upset with Apple about this - is it because you use older hardware (like me, PPC Mac) and you wish you could have a faster Leopard too?

Or are you angry about giving Apple or other companies money?

Or do you think OSes should be free? I'm not sure.

We've already established this is way more than a service pack upgrade - moving from 32-bit to 64-bit is way more complicated than some bug fixes. Leopard isn't invalidated for those who don't want to upgrade. And on top of that, it's only $29... which is like the price of a steak dinner for two. Awesome. What's not to like?
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Again, my problem isn't platform related. I buy my copy of windows when it comes out and usually with a grimace. My only point is that Apple is taking customers to the bank on this one. You apparently aren't reading my posts very well as I have stated numerous times that 64bit means nothing to most people and neither does Cocoa until its mandatory. The tweaks are service pack level at best. This update should not cost money.

Apple is charging you guys $29 for a service pack and you are thanking them for it. That is all I am saying.

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NathanHill Member since:
2006-10-06


Again, my problem isn't platform related. I buy my copy of windows when it comes out and usually with a grimace. My only point is that Apple is taking customers to the bank on this one. You apparently aren't reading my posts very well as I have stated numerous times that 64bit means nothing to most people and neither does Cocoa until its mandatory. The tweaks are service pack level at best. This update should not cost money.

Apple is charging you guys $29 for a service pack and you are thanking them for it. That is all I am saying.


I see what you are saying, but it's all over the place. My point and others is that there is a lot of value, a lot of worthy upgrades, and a lot of changes in Snow Leopard. It's worth more than $29 for the speed improvements alone. They are not taking anyone to the bank, because it isn't forced or required.

You may not feel its worth your dollars, and that is great. But it's worth mine... if it delivers. It looks like it will.

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