Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 8th Jun 2009 18:02 UTC
Apple At the WWDC today, Apple has lifted the veil on a number of features of its upcoming operating system, Snow Leopard. Most of the work on Snow Leopard has gone into under-the-hood technologies and optimisations, but there are also a number of interface tweaks. The company also updated some of its laptops, while also lowering their prices. We got all the news from MacRumorsLive.com.
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Gryzor
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2005-07-03

I'd like to point that DX is free because Microsoft (when DX was around versions 2 and 3) wanted to push it as "THE" APIs for developing. Given that they had the "biggest" marketshare (Win311/95/98...), they wanted to make sure that DX was available for everyone. It was a marketing decision (and a good one).

If anyone here doesn't see the benefit of Snow Leopard, then they can clearly stay with Leopard and wait until 10.7.x.

I use XP, VISTA, Win7 (Beta and now RC) and OS X (Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard) and I find Snow Leopard to be a fantastic upgrade. There are *lots* of hours of work put into this upgrade and it will only lead to better applications in the future. End users not wanting to upgrade can happily stay in 10.5 and stop complaining.

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rhetoric.sendmemoney Member since:
2006-01-22

I'd like to point that DX is free because Microsoft (when DX was around versions 2 and 3) wanted to push it as "THE" APIs for developing. Given that they had the "biggest" marketshare (Win311/95/98...), they wanted to make sure that DX was available for everyone. It was a marketing decision (and a good one).


++ Thank you for making my point for me. Selling some APIs as an upgrade is ridiculous.


If anyone here doesn't see the benefit of Snow Leopard, then they can clearly stay with Leopard and wait until 10.7.x.

I use XP, VISTA, Win7 (Beta and now RC) and OS X (Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard) and I find Snow Leopard to be a fantastic upgrade. There are *lots* of hours of work put into this upgrade and it will only lead to better applications in the future. End users not wanting to upgrade can happily stay in 10.5 and stop complaining.


++ Don't blame the Apple user base for complaining... I am not one of them. My point is that you all should be complaining. Apple shouldn't get a "pass" jus because you guys bought into their ridiculous club.

(Edit: Typo)

Edited 2009-06-08 21:46 UTC

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Gryzor Member since:
2005-07-03

1) If you see Snow Leopard as an API upgrade only, then you clearly should stay with Leopard and end of thread.

2) I don't belong to any club. I enjoy OSX on top of every other OS I have been faced with, starting with Spectrum ZX back in 1987 (I think) and ending with OS X. In the middle I have worked @ IBM with OS/2 and AIX and lived with every DOS version (not only Microsoft DOS). Windows 3.1, 3.11 and so forth… I don't consider myself part of any club. When I started working with OS X it was already the end of Jaguar and a couple of months before Panther. I, as a computer "profesional" that has dedicated his entire career to this business, found out that OS X was/is the most pleasant OS to work with.

When the x86 version saw the light, it was godsend. Virtualization + OSX was all I needed to keep programming for Windows (work) and doing every other possible task I wanted to do with computers with OS X, which I find more adequate.

If you "hate" OS X or Apple for their "policies", just ignore it. Windows is a disaster in many aspects, I deal with it from a very low level perspective every single day.

Cocoa is far from perfect, but if you happen to know both environments (Windows API or .NET vs Cocoa) you should understand.

OS X may not be perfect (it's not, it's annoying sometimes) but my computer experience is way superior under that OS.

I repeat, if you don't consider OS X 10.6 a good upgrade, simply ignore it. We (or I) don't think I have to complain. Are we "sustaining" OS X by paying every year? Maybe. But I rather do that, than have to download a tar.gz with a driver for my video card that may not work. (Linux experience), or have a Windows Vista "SuperFetch™" stuff keep my hard drive spinning constantly while it struggles to cache the "most used applications". I wouldn't even want to mention trying to program Windows API + MFC or .NET…

Don't get me wrong, I respect .NET and Windows (I work with it) but there are days where I HATE it for what it does or does not!

All in all, I consider Win7 the natural choice for Windows enthusiasts. In fact, I replaced all my Windows XP installs with Windows 7 (Except one for testing software). Only 1 vista remains (for the same reason).

If you think Apple should be releasing these "OpenCL, GrandCentral, etc.) stuff as Free APIS, I think you're confusing the purpose of the APIs in the near future.

I repeat myself: Time will tell. In the meantime, I'll save 29€.

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

++ Don't blame the Apple user base for complaining... I am not one of them. My point is that you all should be complaining. Apple shouldn't get a "pass" jus because you guys bought into their ridiculous club.

(Edit: Typo)


Mate, you are the one complaining with the original diatribe of the following:

Seriously, those are the "New" features? I don't see how those are even worth $29 bucks. That's less value then the last (free) Windows service pack.

Firefox is promoting 3.5's speed gains and its free. Cutting off a couple gigs of crust is not a feature either.

If I was an Apple user I would skip this one.


Now say it with a straight face that you aren't complaining.

Mac people like me aren't complaining; not because of excessive koolaide but because we actually respect the work that Apple has done; if Microsoft's operating system was of a similar quality then I'd be singing the praises of them as well.

For me, Windows 7 doesn't meet my expectations - and I'm just putting the finishing touches on a review of Window 7 7201 on my Eee PC (going to submit it soon). I want Microsoft to succeed because I know if there is strong competition between the different vendors then it improves my user experience over all. Competition is good and keeps everyone on their toes.

Edited 2009-06-09 01:44 UTC

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