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Fedora Core Today, Fedora 11 will be unleashed upon the web. The release has been postponed for a few days, but this time it's for real. It comes packed with lots of changes, such as improved boot time, Nouveau as the default NVIDIA driver, and of course the latest and greatest version of various open source packages.
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A couple of points worth noting
by lemur2 on Tue 9th Jun 2009 12:58 UTC
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

1. There is no Firefox 3.1

2. Fedora has recently dropped Mono, although it might have been a little late for Fedora 11.

http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2009/06/02/redhatfedora-drops-mono/

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stickster Member since:
2008-10-02

1. Firefox 3.5 beta 4 is the version in F11.

2. Fedora has not dropped mono at this time. We are substituting Gnote for Tomboy in F12 for several reasons including concerns about the size a native C++ app could save us on an already very cramped Live image.

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jackson Member since:
2005-06-29

On Mono, I thought I saw that Mono and Mono apps were going to be removed from the default installation media for Fedora 12. Yes, Mono and Mono apps will probably always be available in the repos, but removing Mono and Mono apps from a default install would be a good thing.

Edited 2009-06-09 15:03 UTC

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

1. Firefox 3.5 beta 4 is the version in F11.


Precisely. The "Read more" text on OSNews for this article originally claimed Firefox 3.1, not Fedora.

2. Fedora has not dropped mono at this time. We are substituting Gnote for Tomboy in F12 for several reasons including concerns about the size a native C++ app could save us on an already very cramped Live image.


One would only get any savings by substituting Gnote for Tomboy if one also dropped Mono libraries that Tomboy depends upon.

Since Gnote is the functional equivalent of Tomboy, the only benefits of doing this at all is the removal of the waste of space and potential liability that is Mono.

Surely Fedora realises that some of the features that the Mono project advertises itself as including, to whit:

http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
Microsoft Compatible API
Run ASP.NET, ADO.NET, and Windows.Forms 2.0 applications without recompilation


are patented, proprietary technologies (that are not standards, and are not covered by any Open Specification Promise) which require a license to run and to redistribute?

Edited 2009-06-09 15:31 UTC

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AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

Fedora has not 'dropped' Mono, simply changed the default package set. Mono is available from the repositories just as it always was.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Fedora has not 'dropped' Mono, simply changed the default package set. Mono is available from the repositories just as it always was.


That would be fine. If this is the case, then the risk of getting sued for patent infringement through running and/or distributing the patented parts of Mono would then be confined to Fedora themselves (for distributing patented technologies without a license) and to those who deliberately installed Mono (for running patented technologies without a license).

Since Mono would no longer be part of the default installation, most Fedora users then wouldn't use it, and there would be no risk to them of either getting sued or of becoming dependent on proprietary technologies requiring licenses.

Edited 2009-06-10 00:42 UTC

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