Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Jun 2009 09:34 UTC
Fedora Core Today, Fedora 11 will be unleashed upon the web. The release has been postponed for a few days, but this time it's for real. It comes packed with lots of changes, such as improved boot time, Nouveau as the default NVIDIA driver, and of course the latest and greatest version of various open source packages.
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RE: Looks nice
by AdamW on Tue 9th Jun 2009 16:22 UTC in reply to "Looks nice"
AdamW
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2005-07-06

you can actually update between Fedora releases with yum, we just don't support or emphasize this method. If you ask our release engineering team and yum engineers they will give you a very long list of reasons why in-place upgrading can never be entirely a safe proposition. That's why we rather recommend upgrading via images or preupgrade, which can be made much more reliable. But in practice, some people do upgrade with yum and it often works. There's specific caveats for F10->F11 upgrading noted here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#10-11

some of the features of F11 are also in or partly in Ubuntu 9.04, I guess. Most of the rest should make it into 9.10. Fedora upstreams stuff pretty fast.

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RE[2]: Looks nice
by mawei on Tue 9th Jun 2009 19:24 in reply to "RE: Looks nice"
mawei Member since:
2005-08-02

you can actually update between Fedora releases with yum, we just don't support or emphasize this method.


Why not? Similar methods are supported on Debian, Arch and other systems.



If you ask our release engineering team and yum engineers they will give you a very long list of reasons why in-place upgrading can never be entirely a safe proposition.


Is this documented anywhere?

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RE[3]: Looks nice
by AdamW on Tue 9th Jun 2009 20:21 in reply to "RE[2]: Looks nice"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews/PreUpgrade is a reasonable explanation. Best canonical reference we can find after a quick chat on IRC. mostly it's in IRC logs or mailing list threads.

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RE[3]: Looks nice
by clei on Tue 9th Jun 2009 20:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Looks nice"
clei Member since:
2008-10-04

[q]you can actually update between Fedora releases with yum, we just don't support or emphasize this method.


Why not? Similar methods are supported on Debian, Arch and other systems.


[q]



In fact upgrading a system like this using this piecemeal method is a very good way of ending up with a very broken system and is a very,very dumb idea to begin with.

Not to even mention the time,expense and bandwith wasted on downloading and installing every pidling upgrade that comes along the pike.

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