Linked by David Adams on Fri 12th Jun 2009 14:55 UTC, submitted by google_ninja
A Mono developer responds to a request for "a calm presentation of why Mono is desirable, why it is not a threat, and why it should be included in Ubuntu by default" answering the three questions individually, then attempting to address general anti-Mono sentiment.
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Member since:2009-05-20
Actually, no. If you did not get the joke, leave it be.
What I meant to say was that every time this topic comes, the discussion turns into a useless and particularly nasty flamewar filled with personal attacks and all. And I've seen this at least on dozen mailing lists. (For references see for instance the current "discussion" on Ubuntu's devel-discuss: the polite political discussion culture is quite far from it -- "zealotism" is actually the only good word to describe the thread.)
So far the discussion here at OSnews has been amazingly civil (see however further below). Thank you all for it and keep it that way.
Edited 2009-06-12 17:49 UTC
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2006-04-22
"Expect furious rage from zealots around the globe
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Why is it that most "mono haters" present reasoned arguments but mono supporters always reply with personal attacks and condescending dismissals? Not liking what you like doesn't make someone a zealot or a hater. Calling someone that when they've tried to engage in reasonable debate *does* make *you* a zealot and a hater however.
1) Mono "haters" *never* say mono sucks (although they do sometimes say it is slow which is true). They do sometimes ask the question, why do we need mono? For some reason though the reasonable and objective mono fans love to bring this up as if anyone was debating that anyway (this is known as a straw man argument, commonly used by irrational zealots to win arguments when they have no logical basis for their position)
2) Mono "haters" always bring up the fact that MS has patents on large portions of mono that have are *not* under ecma standardization. Reasonable mono fans always reply by saying that that mono is covered by ecma standardization and calling you a zealot (this is known as redirecting the question and not answering the question, also a favorite of zealots with no logical basis for their position)
3) Mono "haters" always bring up the fact that ecma standardization does not preclude MS from chargin RAND fees or requiring licensing. See 2) for response from fans.
You know who Mono fans remind me of? Republicans in the US. Cling angrily to what you want, don't think about it. Respond to any criticism with character assassination, personal attacks and subterfuge. And just to make sure label any people who disagree with you as personally vested zealots. Very slick. Very crappy. Very old.
Edited 2009-06-12 17:34 UTC