Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Jun 2009 18:25 UTC
Debian and its clones Well, this is interesting. We already have a Mono item ruffling some feathers on OSNews today, but here we have the apparent news that Tomboy has become a default part of GNOME on Squeeze, the next release of Debian. Wait, what now? Update: I've updated the article with Fedora's position in all this. Read on! Update II: Josselin Mouette replies.
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OK, I`ll be bold and say:
by kragil on Fri 12th Jun 2009 18:51 UTC
kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

This will not stand.

Adding 50mb to the default install for a note taking app is just insane and the Debian people will know better and include the much smaller alternative (if a note app is really needed.)

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RE: OK, I`ll be bold and say:
by jpobst on Fri 12th Jun 2009 20:02 in reply to "OK, I`ll be bold and say:"
jpobst Member since:
2006-09-26

Adding 50mb to the default install for a note taking app is just insane and the Debian people will know better and include the much smaller alternative (if a note app is really needed.)


How small does it need to be? How about 11mb?

That's how much Tomboy (and all its required Mono dependencies) actually bring in:

http://pastebin.ca/1458155

Of course, one can argue that that is too much, but at least we're arguing about the actual numbers and not some made-up ones.

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anythinggoes Member since:
2008-07-01

On Debian Squeeze Tomboy's package[1] alone is over 13Mb not counting dependencies.

[1] http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/tomboy

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KAMiKAZOW Member since:
2005-07-06

How small does it need to be? How about 11mb?

Shipping a whole framework stack in the default installation for a single piece of software is pretty stupid, IMHO.

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RE[2]: OK, I`ll be bold and say:
by l3v1 on Sat 13th Jun 2009 06:11 in reply to "RE: OK, I`ll be bold and say:"
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

10+ megs for a note-taking app, plus dependencies? Let me say, there were times not too long ago, when every living coder would've slapped the coder of that one in the face, and hard. But times, they are a'changing, now all I can do is choose not to use it, which is fine with me.

This whole thing smells like a hack to sneak mono into a default mono install with gnome, which - knowing we're talking about Debian here, my favourite from potato on - is quite peculiar. But then again, I use kde, so my only interest is because my Debian preference and my strong anti-mono feelings ;)

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RE: OK, I`ll be bold and say:
by Soulbender on Fri 12th Jun 2009 21:31 in reply to "OK, I`ll be bold and say:"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Since when is GNOME a default install on Debian? I'm pretty sure you have to select it yourself to have it installed.
Or did you mean the default GNOME install? In that case 5Mb isn't a huge deal.

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aesiamun Member since:
2005-06-29

No, but 50MB is a bigger deal than 5MB.

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