Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Jun 2009 18:25 UTC
Debian and its clones Well, this is interesting. We already have a Mono item ruffling some feathers on OSNews today, but here we have the apparent news that Tomboy has become a default part of GNOME on Squeeze, the next release of Debian. Wait, what now? Update: I've updated the article with Fedora's position in all this. Read on! Update II: Josselin Mouette replies.
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RE[2]: Rabble Rabble Rabble
by pooo on Fri 12th Jun 2009 20:04 UTC in reply to "RE: Rabble Rabble Rabble"
pooo
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2006-04-22

I'll repost an excerpt from my comment in the last thread because it seems even more appropriate here:

Why is it that most "mono haters" present reasoned arguments but mono supporters always reply with personal attacks and condescending dismissals? Not liking what you like doesn't make someone a zealot or a hater. Calling someone that when they've tried to engage in reasonable debate *does* make *you* a zealot and a hater however.

1) Mono "haters" *never* say mono sucks (although they do sometimes say it is slow which is true). They do sometimes ask the question, why do we need mono? For some reason though the reasonable and objective mono fans love to bring this up as if anyone was debating that anyway (this is known as a straw man argument, commonly used by irrational zealots to win arguments when they have no logical basis for their position)

2) Mono "haters" always bring up the fact that MS has patents on large portions of mono that have are *not* under ecma standardization. Reasonable mono fans always reply by saying that that mono is covered by ecma standardization and calling you a zealot (this is known as redirecting the question and not answering the question, also a favorite of zealots with no logical basis for their position)

3) Mono "haters" always bring up the fact that ecma standardization does not preclude MS from chargin RAND fees or requiring licensing. See 2) for response from fans.

I'll add for this particular case:

4) Mono "haters" ask why we need Tomboy when we have gnote that takes almost no space and is not controversial in any way? Mono "fans" reply with "rabble, flame, troll, hate, fud". (This again is known as not answering the question and redirecting the question in the form of character assassination).

Nice.

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RE[3]: Rabble Rabble Rabble
by jpobst on Fri 12th Jun 2009 21:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Rabble Rabble Rabble"
jpobst Member since:
2006-09-26

Why is it that most "mono haters" present reasoned arguments but mono supporters always reply with personal attacks and condescending dismissals?

Do you really want to post that on your own post in which you said this:

Seriously your post is so a-s-s hole-ish and off base. Did you actually read the blog post or any of the comments?? DO YOU EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH?? Or are you just copying and pasting rebuttals from a spreadsheet put together by MS's marketing/psychology department?

Perhaps you would also like to post it on your above post where you opened with:

Dear pro-mono zealot,

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RE[3]: Rabble Rabble Rabble
by jakesdad on Fri 12th Jun 2009 23:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Rabble Rabble Rabble"
jakesdad Member since:
2005-12-28

pot kettle, kettle pot. Glad you know each other now.

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