Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Jun 2009 18:25 UTC
Debian and its clones Well, this is interesting. We already have a Mono item ruffling some feathers on OSNews today, but here we have the apparent news that Tomboy has become a default part of GNOME on Squeeze, the next release of Debian. Wait, what now? Update: I've updated the article with Fedora's position in all this. Read on! Update II: Josselin Mouette replies.
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A user's perspective
by Buffalo Soldier on Sat 13th Jun 2009 03:35 UTC
Buffalo Soldier
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2005-07-06

This is what I believe:

1) There are other things in linux ecosystem that are derived from patent incumbered things.

2) But none of those comes from company that is so openly against Free & Open Source Software.

But I have no ill feelings towards Mono developers and users. Just like I have no ill feelings towards WINE developers and users.

I only request that Mono is treated like WINE where:
1) it is _NOT_ installed by _DEFAULT_

2) important package/metapackage, such as ubuntu-desktop metapackage, does not depend on it

3) still give option to people to use it by including it in multiverse/non-free

So far I am quite happy with Ubuntu because it lets me uninstall f-spot, tomboy and mono without removing other non-mono stuff (ubuntu-desktop)

Am I being unreasonable?

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RE: A user's perspective
by Xenu on Sun 14th Jun 2009 02:37 in reply to "A user's perspective"
Xenu Member since:
2008-03-02

3) still give option to people to use it by including it in multiverse/non-free

[...]

Am I being unreasonable?


With that last point I would say so.

Mono is, after all, Free Software. Their authors grant you all the rights^W freedoms that the FSF require for software to bear the title. That there is the nebulous threat of lawsuits from third parties towards the users or implementors of Mono is another thing, but Linux itself was under threat and its status as Free software was never questioned.

I don't know, but if I were one of the authors I would be pissed if someone excluded me from the community and called my hard, GPL'd work 'proprietary' on a whim.

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RE[2]: A user's perspective
by Richard Dale on Mon 15th Jun 2009 09:51 in reply to "RE: A user's perspective"
Richard Dale Member since:
2005-07-22

I don't know, but if I were one of the authors I would be pissed if someone excluded me from the community and called my hard, GPL'd work 'proprietary' on a whim.


Well said, I agree entirely. And I would be especially and seriously pissed off, if the guys attempting to redefine what is Free Software and what tools developers should use weren't even developers themselves. It's a bit like some people who are illiterate telling authors what sort of books they should be writing. Outrageous, and not any more acceptable just because a large and vocal minority behave like that.

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