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Internet & Networking While Adobe, Microsoft, and Sun duke it out with proprietary technologies for implementing multimedia on the Web, HTML 5 has the potential to "eat these vendors' lunches", offering Web experiences based on an industry standard. In fact, one expressed goal of the standard is to move the Web away from proprietary technologies such as Flash, Silverlight, and JavaFX. "It would be a terrible step backward if humanity's major development platform [the Web] was controlled by a single vendor the way that previous platforms such as Windows have been," says HTML 5 co-editor Ian Hickson, a Google employee. But whether HTML 5 and its Canvas technology will displace proprietary plug-ins "really depends on what developers do", says Firefox technical lead Vlad Vukicevic. It also depends on Microsoft, the only company involved in the HTML 5 effort that is both a browser developer and an RIA tool developer.
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RE[3]: the omni-standard
by AlexandreAM on Wed 17th Jun 2009 02:34 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: the omni-standard"
AlexandreAM
Member since:
2006-02-06

That's what people wanted and it's a good idea. The problem is that HTML/CSS/JS isn't the way to do it. It's using a document presentation framework to generate interactive content. Despite it's bad implementation, I think Flash and friends are the way forward. We can leave HTML/CSS/JS for content, and use something else for the real webapps. AJAX is a joke and should not be the future of web development.


I won't discuss the "It's a good idea" thing, it's a subjective thing and we're very unlikely to see opinions changing in either camp.


But a less touchy subjective thing: I'd love if we could do as you say, making those two completely disjoint sets.

No HTML/CSS/JS to Web Apps. No Flash/SilverLight/Java for freaking DOCUMENTS!

If only they came up with something like "Java Web Start" so that you could have clear separation between Documents (which links to a) Web App (Opened in a different Tab/Window/whatever).

Ok, I'm not saying this is the "Right Thing" or anything. It's just that I would like it better that way.

Now, rant finished, you can all discard my comment and go on ;)

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RE[4]: the omni-standard
by dbolgheroni on Wed 17th Jun 2009 15:46 in reply to "RE[3]: the omni-standard"
dbolgheroni Member since:
2007-01-18

This is the MAJOR problem. Why anyone would use Flash for a simple and f--king menu? Flash is used everywhere! Flash will kill the web!

Do you have Flashblock enabled? Try to look this:

http://www.fei.edu.br

Sick!

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