Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 23rd Jun 2009 13:31 UTC, submitted by Hakime
Hardware, Embedded Systems The NPD group has done a study into customer satisfaction among netbook buyers, and they came to some surprisingly unsurprising results. As it turns out, people who expected a notebook when they bought a netbook were more likely to be disappointed than buyers who set out to buy a netbook from the get-go. No doodoo, Sherlock.
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Why isn't it a real computer?
by axilmar on Tue 23rd Jun 2009 14:22 UTC in reply to "Comment by Bobthearch"
axilmar
Member since:
2006-03-20

The specs are ok.2 GB of RAM and an 160 GB hard drive? how come it is not a real computer?

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Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

Here's what the EeePC is lacking or deficient that would otherwise make it a 'real' computer::

Keyboard. Speakers. Graphic card. Sound card. Screen size. Processor. Upgradability/expandability. Optical drive. RAID-capable. Floppy drive (some folks still use them, particularly us OS hobbiests). Multi-card reader.

Not to mention limitations on software and operating system installations.

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Don't misunderstand, I actually like the Eeepc; it's the perfect motel toy for traveling. But I have no fantasies about it running the same software or performing the same tasks as a 'real' computer: gaming, GIS, CAD, music, connecting to peripherals, etc.

Edited 2009-06-23 16:53 UTC

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umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Here's what the EeePC is lacking or deficient that would otherwise make it a 'real' computer::


Note, I have an Acer Aspire One, so I suppose I don't have a direct comparison...

Keyboard.


Mine isn't too bad... can always hook up an external keyboard if I must.

Speakers.


Yep, they suck... headphones are a great addition ;)

Graphic card.


Good enough for my purposes, I almost always use integrated video on machines these days anyway.

Sound card.


Intel HDA is enough for me...

Screen size.


Yep, damnit for portability it's exactly what I expect.

Processor.


Hard to argue with the efficiency of the Atom, however...

Upgradability/expandability.


USB...

Optical drive.


USB...

RAID-capable.


WTF?

Floppy drive (some folks still use them, particularly us OS hobbiests).


USB...

Multi-card reader.


Mine has this... sort of. (two if you count the other SD card slot too - but it's not multi-card)

It doesn't accommodate CF which is what my camera uses... so, USB...

Not to mention limitations on software and operating system installations.


Jeez, I dunno, I'm quad-booting mine between Windows XP, eeebuntu, Haiku GCC2 and Haiku GCC4 currently... those are the only OSes I really mess with at this point.

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polaris20 Member since:
2005-07-06

Here's what the EeePC is lacking or deficient that would otherwise make it a 'real' computer::

Keyboard. Speakers. Graphic card. Sound card. Screen size. Processor. Upgradability/expandability. Optical drive. RAID-capable. Floppy drive (some folks still use them, particularly us OS hobbiests). Multi-card reader.

Not to mention limitations on software and operating system installations.

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Don't misunderstand, I actually like the Eeepc; it's the perfect motel toy for traveling. But I have no fantasies about it running the same software or performing the same tasks as a 'real' computer: gaming, GIS, CAD, music, connecting to peripherals, etc.


So I guess one of my computers, still running full versions of Linux and Windows, is no longer a real computer?

Keyboard. All netbooks so far have keyboards.

Speakers. speakers too

Graphic card. They also have Graphics cards. We're on a roll.

Sound card
. Yup, we've got a sound card

Screen size
. Small, but with usable res

Processor
. As fast as procs from just a few years ago

Upgradability/expandability
. You mean like laptop? How about an ExpressCard slot?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146554

Optical drive. USB works wonders here.

RAID-capable. You mean like all the other RAID equipped laptops? Oh wait, that's like 2% of the laptop market, if that.

Floppy drive. It's 2009. Come on in, the water's warm.

Multi-card reader. A number of the netbooks have these.

Here's one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152092

Edited 2009-06-23 19:50 UTC

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bm3719 Member since:
2006-05-30

I have a 10" EEEpc, and while it's ok, there's a lot wrong with it. A few problems are: huge screen bezel (IBM managed to make full-lid sized screens back in 1996), crappy mouse buttons and a generally crappy trackpad, dumb Fn key in the wrong place, bottom-pointing speakers (for gawds sake, why???), Linux battery life is approx 1hr less than on XP (not the EEE's fault though), abysmally slow HD access speed (I have the SSD/CF card version), and a built-in webcam I don't want. I'd also prefer 4:3 ratio to 16:10 or 16:9, but apparently I'm the only one who doesn't use their laptop for passively consuming video. Reviews also claimed it to be silent, but I can still hear the fan. Like most Atom based boards, the CPU can cool passively, but the crappy chipset needs a fan - a tiny, high-pitched one.

It's usable, but I plan to ebay it as soon as a decent ARM netbook comes out.

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Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

Here's what the EeePC is lacking or deficient that would otherwise make it a 'real' computer::

Keyboard. Speakers. Graphic card. Sound card. Screen size. Processor. Upgradability/expandability. Optical drive. RAID-capable. Floppy drive (some folks still use them, particularly us OS hobbiests). Multi-card reader.


So, your view is that full-size laptops aren't real computers either?

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Finalzone Member since:
2005-07-06

Here's what the EeePC is lacking or deficient that would otherwise make it a 'real' computer::

Keyboard. Speakers. Graphic card. Sound card. Screen size. Processor. Upgradability/expandability. Optical drive. RAID-capable. Floppy drive (some folks still use them, particularly us OS hobbiests). Multi-card reader.


I am writing from LG LT20 that has similar spec to Asus EEE PC (1.5 GHz Pentium M with 2GB DDR-RAM). It does not have built-in optical drive nor floppy disk (which is depreciated and should not be part of modern netbook or notebook). For that logic, LT20 is not a 'real' computer, right?


Not to mention limitations on software and operating system installations.


It depends what operating are used. It is not hard to install from a live-USB or SD Card.


Don't misunderstand, I actually like the Eeepc; it's the perfect motel toy for traveling. But I have no fantasies about it running the same software or performing the same tasks as a 'real' computer: gaming, GIS, CAD, music, connecting to peripherals, etc.


Then you should blame yourself to choose the wrong hardware. As for music, even the XO-1 can play them once your favorite musics are converted (on a Linux distribution, it just a matter for using OGGConvert or ffmpeg2[insert_format]).

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