Linked by Jordan Spencer Cunningham on Thu 25th Jun 2009 16:40 UTC
Law and Order Back in April after the four involved in the Pirate Bay scuffle were declared guilty of helping to break copyright law, the judge who gave the verdict, Thomas Norstrom, was found to probably be biased due to his involvement in several pro-copyright groups. After a long, cold, hard bout of deliberation, the Swedish Court of Appeals has actually found Norstrom unbiased, something rather surprising. This means that the charges against the guilty still stand.
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ringham
Member since:
2006-03-23

Oh poor you. You have to pay money for something, at a price set by someone else. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's a free world, people can charge whatever the hell they want for what they produce/sell.

Do you really need that movie/tv show/cd to survive? Are you going to die without it?

Your sense of entitlement is unbelievable. You don't deserve ANYTHING for free. Learn to pay for it like the rest of us, or don't consume it. Don't steal it.

Oh wait, but "it's not theft, you can't steal bits". Yeah, yeah - stop giving us that bullshit line. It's something you didn't pay for, that normally costs money, that you acquired and used without paying money. That's theft in my eyes.

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spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

Man! Even in the worst tribal place in the middle of the mountain they don't ruin your life over theft!

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ringham Member since:
2006-03-23

Oh yeah? You rob a bank in the US for the amount of money equal to the average amount people would pay for pirated material, you go to prison. That ruins your life. You steal something in Saudi Arabia, they chop your hand off. That ruins your life.

Are you sure there are places in the world where theft is forgiven that easily?

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

A question for you: I want to purchase a DVD here, in the U.S. However, said DVD is only available in Region 2 (UK) or Region 4 (Australia), neither of which I can legally play under our law as it is a violation of the DMCA to circumvent any lockouts of any kind. Nevermind the fact that I can de-region a DVD fairly easily, that is not the point and I can't if I want to be completely, 100% legal. So what do I do now? I can purchase it from a place like ebay, but I cannot legally play it. They have chosen to exclude me from their purchasing demographic. So, if I want to view it, I have to violate one law or another. Either I violate copyright law by downloading a cracked copy, or I violate the DMCA by ripping the DVD and removing the region lock. What do you do when no choice you have is legal because of idiotic restrictions that have no place in this day and age?
FYI: I do #2, as I also believe in paying fair prices for others' work. But I imagine you don't like that anymore than you like pirating. Holy crap, he violated the law! Sue his rear off and lock him up!

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ringham Member since:
2006-03-23

Boo hoo. Do you really need that DVD?

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cb_osn Member since:
2006-02-26


Oh wait, but "it's not theft, you can't steal bits". Yeah, yeah - stop giving us that bullshit line. It's something you didn't pay for, that normally costs money, that you acquired and used without paying money. That's theft in my eyes.

This statement reflects a deep misunderstanding of copyright law. Copyright is not ownership. It is the right to control distribution of a work for a limited time. The fact that the time limit for this right has been effectively extended to perpetuity does not change the basic nature of it.

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