Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 30th Jun 2009 15:56 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones As was anticipated, the boys and girls at Mozilla have released the final build of Firefox 3.5 today. Firefox 3.5 - originally supposed to be 3.1 - comes with many welcome improvements, chief among which is support for HTML5 audio and video tags.
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First browser to support open video formats?
by daveak on Tue 30th Jun 2009 17:29 UTC
daveak
Member since:
2008-12-29

I'm afraid Firefox devs are making an incorrect claim on their whats new page. Safari can play <video> that is using Theora so long as the XiphQT codecs are installed, and as Safari 4 has been out for a couple of weeks + now then Firefox is not the first.

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Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

QuickTime plays the video, not Safari. Firefox is the only released browser with the video decoder built in (Chrome 3 will be the second).

Safari’s <video> is still a plugin of sorts, and having to install XiphQT is hardly and out-of-the-box experience.

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daveak Member since:
2008-12-29

They don't mention out of the box ;) besides, installing a codec is less than installing a whole browser such as firefox so it is less to do.

Even though it is using quicktime, it is still the browser supporting it + it still seems native (and seeming native is something firefox loves to try and do), for instance right click on the video you do not get a quicktime popup like you would with flash, but just the normal one. Personally I think it is better going though the native media system, why should my browser know how to decode any video format? Yes it is nicer the browser renders it rather than farming off to a plugin, but it should still use the system code, not bring in its own library. Cross platform argument? Just ship the codec for whatever framework the platform build is.

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arpan Member since:
2006-07-30

Does it really matter whether it is Safari playing the video or Quicktime. Either way, it is transparent to the user.

In addition, which codec is more likely to be used, h.264 or Theora? I know that h.264 is patent encumbered, but when so many companies have already paid the fees and use it extensively, does it not make sense to standardize on that?

I'm not saying I don't want Theora to win, I'm just saying that that isn't all that likely to happen. As such, would it not make sense to standardize on something that have a much better chance of becoming a defacto standard for the web and replacing proprietary Flash or Silverlight?

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