Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 30th Jun 2009 21:29 UTC
Mono Project We've had a lot of debates recently on the merits - or dangers - of Mono. We've had troubles with how Microsoft views Mono and whether or not everyone is safe using it, but we also had a public back-and-forth among Debian maintainers. During all this, Richard Stallman remained pretty mum on the issue, today he broke the silence on the FSF website.
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RE[2]: Clarification
by Slambert666 on Wed 1st Jul 2009 04:34 UTC in reply to "RE: Clarification"
Slambert666
Member since:
2008-10-30

Both Adobe and Sun have said since God was a teenager that they are not going to go after third party implementations of their respective technologies and they have put it in writing.


So when was it that God was a teenager? Sun sued Microsoft over the MS-java third party implementation in 1997 and it was settled in 2001. Sun is to my knowledge the only company in the history of software that has ever actually sued anyone over a programming language.

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RE[3]: Clarification
by r_a_trip on Wed 1st Jul 2009 09:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Clarification"
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

Sun sued Microsoft over the MS-java third party implementation in 1997 and it was settled in 2001. Sun is to my knowledge the only company in the history of software that has ever actually sued anyone over a programming language.

With good cause to boot. MS got a commercial license from Sun to produce a Sun Java compliant MS JVM. MS went ahead and tried to use Embrace Extend Extinguish with their Java implementation to kill Sun Java. Sun Java was at the time a possible threat to MS' desktop stranglehold.

Since MS grossly overstepped the bounds in their license, Sun took them to court after they refused to mitigate their dirty deeds.

Sadly, although MS lost the case, they got what they wanted. Java on the desktop is all but dead.

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RE[3]: Clarification
by wakeupneo on Wed 1st Jul 2009 09:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Clarification"
wakeupneo Member since:
2005-07-06

Wrong. Sun sued Microsoft because they were bastardising the language with their own Windows only 'extensions' while at the same time continuing to promote their implementation (J++) as being fully "Java Compliant". This was clearly in violation of the licensing agreement they had with Sun so they were correctly taken to task for it.

Here's a good analysis of what went down...

http://www.aaxnet.com/news/J010124.html

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RE[4]: Clarification
by Slambert666 on Wed 1st Jul 2009 11:21 in reply to "RE[3]: Clarification"
Slambert666 Member since:
2008-10-30

he he :-)

So if Microsoft sue Mono for not being 100% compatible with dotNET (bastardizing dotNET to work better on Linux) then it is ok with you?

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