Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 30th Jun 2009 21:29 UTC
Mono Project We've had a lot of debates recently on the merits - or dangers - of Mono. We've had troubles with how Microsoft views Mono and whether or not everyone is safe using it, but we also had a public back-and-forth among Debian maintainers. During all this, Richard Stallman remained pretty mum on the issue, today he broke the silence on the FSF website.
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Use it with portable.net or parts of Mono.
by Bonus on Wed 1st Jul 2009 13:40 UTC
Bonus
Member since:
2005-12-23

If I can use C# with portable.net and that is not patented then that should be fine. RMS is jumping to conclusions too quickly.
Do your project in Mono, but just avoid the libs that are most likely to be patented like Mono's ASP.NET.
Any company that just uses Mono or .NET blind-face probably wont last long anyway.
For him to say not use C# is biased, right?
C# in and of it's self is just, yet another language, and if people like it then good. It doesn't matter, just avoid what is patented so you can have optimal strength to port and convert down the road. But C# itself will no doubt remain.

Also C#, like C++, is a free standard. There are plenty of C++ add-on libraries that are patented as well just the same as C#. It's the same but the standards are free.

Edited 2009-07-01 13:48 UTC

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adkilla Member since:
2005-07-07

Do your project in Mono, but just avoid the libs that are most likely to be patented like Mono's ASP.NET.
Any company that just uses Mono or .NET blind-face probably wont last long anyway.
For him to say not use C# is biased, right?
C# in and of it's self is just, yet another language, and if people like it then good. It doesn't matter, just avoid what is patented so you can have optimal strength to port and convert down the road. But C# itself will no doubt remain.


Why even bother dealing with such a minefield? Wouldn't it be wiser to use a framework that does not have patent/license booby traps?

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neighborlee Member since:
2007-08-06

We were taught as children to avoid danger, especially when the danger signs have been so amazingly and clearly shown to us via large blinking caution signs, yet so many seem to want to convey safety in light of sound reason to the contrary. It would be nice if the world existed in a safe bubble where we all worked together to one mutally productive goal,but we're not quite there yet so we need to navigate the waters carefullly.

I and others have said for a very long time the dangers of using mono, yet others ( and some distros very sadly, which is why I wont use anything but fedora atm ) sing its praise, those very same people that 'seem' to be using and supported linux , yet want to infect it with software that currently has NO ECMA license, and can ONLY but downloaded from one location. How can anyone claim they truly support FOSS , yet say we should use mono when its obvious that its based on a Microsoft technology, has patents and comes from a company that says 'linux is a cancer', and so clearly went out of its way to made ooXML the standard instead of odf ? I guess you could argue a company which has been convicted of being a monopolist, yet some in the 'community' think all of a sudden we should trust them. I have yet to see this new leaf they have turned over and to the contrary its same old .

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/10/microsoft...

What FOSS user would risk using something from a company that calls linux a cancer, and that clearly has patents and a NON existing ecma license, considering that we have many alternatives to choose from in our community ?

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215/1090/1/0/

http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20080528133529454

Those are the realities..the much trumpeted ECMA rand license is non forthcoming ( no word so far now for months,and it takes how long to get one exactly ? ), and its clear from groklaw that these are patent encumbered as they are downloadable ONLY from one source so thats hardly FOSS:
" -- it is not limited just to Novell as Mono is." "
:

http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-10535-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=4776...

So much for mono 'detractors' as being evil-minded conspiracy theorists and haters...

http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/37436#comment-10749 < see 'eet' comments and others there.

thanks for listening
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