Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 3rd Jul 2009 11:27 UTC
Mac OS X Whenever we talk about Mac clone makers such as Psystar, we all more or less accept as a fact that Apple is selling copies of its Mac OS X operating system at a price lower than it would have been if Apple did not have a hardware business. Even though we treat this statement as fact - recently, I've been wondering: where is the proof?
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RE[3]: It's just common sense.
by Vanders on Fri 3rd Jul 2009 14:22 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: It's just common sense."
Vanders
Member since:
2005-07-06

But to maintain a high quality it would involve a massive amount of control when it comes to licensing and many OEM's would simply refuse.


Dell and other OEMs are happily shipping Ubuntu on their hardware, which requires a similar amount of "control" in respect of the hardware they select. Why would it suddenly be different for Apple? I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that Dell would fall over themselves if Apple offered them to option to ship OS X on their machines.

Its a no win situation with some idiots on this website - what it is all about is envy and jealousy. I can't have that product so I'd sooner see the company get destroyed instead.


I have no idea if that was aimed at me or just a general comment, but it's bizarre reasoning on your part either way.

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Dell and other OEMs are happily shipping Ubuntu on their hardware, which requires a similar amount of "control" in respect of the hardware they select. Why would it suddenly be different for Apple? I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that Dell would fall over themselves if Apple offered them to option to ship OS X on their machines.


What have they done for Ubuntu? there are still the same incompatibilities; they still are choosing to ship BroadCom even though their drivers are shonky, they continue to provide ATI GPU's with Linux laptop seven though the drivers are more or less a joke. Then there is the firmware itself - where as a nice, clean and efficient UEFI would do, they hobble it with a buggy BIOS.

I'd say that Dell did the least amount humanly possible.

I have no idea if that was aimed at me or just a general comment, but it's bizarre reasoning on your part either way.


It was a general comment; the feeling I get from some people here is if they can't get something - they'd sooner see Apple get destroyed. Its akin to saying, "I really want a Ferrari, but because they don't provide a cheap one or allow cheap clones - I want the to go bust instead". Call it the extension of the, "I want now" syndrome.

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Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

I'd say that Dell did the least amount humanly possible.


While that may well be true on Dells part, they do at least ensure that the OS works with the hardware. There's no reason why, in my hypothetical universe, Apple could not contractually enforce more control over the hardware than Conanical have done.

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merlin747 Member since:
2006-11-09

Part of the problem with Windows is that the hardware manufacturers write the drivers. With the crap drivers & software Dell installs on their machines, OS X would not be a pleasant experience on those machines.

Apple's engineers write the drivers for their systems, it adds to their costs, but also is part of the stability which most here apparently want.

Kelly

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Nossie Member since:
2007-07-31

eh? they certainly dont write all the drivers...

just because they come with the OS (not always) does not mean they were written by Apple.

Apple engineers are good - but not that good!

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