Linked by Jordan Spencer Cunningham on Fri 3rd Jul 2009 20:24 UTC
Internet & Networking Chances are that you've already heard of and even visited Bing, Microsoft's new search offering launched earlier in June, replacing the Live search of yesterday. It's new, shiny, and has pretty pictures, but does it really have much effect on the market? There have been those headlines claiming it's "taken a bite out of Google," but, looking at the statistics, it hasn't really affected the search industry at all.
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not yet
by TechGeek on Fri 3rd Jul 2009 20:48 UTC
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2006-01-14

No it hasnt done much yet. But that isnt the point. I dont understand why people dont look at this with great concern. We have the worlds largest OS maker, which surprise surprise, is also the worlds largest browser maker, jumping into a new market. Now where do you think they are going to get that new market dominance from? Well from the fact that Bing will be the default search engine in IE. And of course, they would say that is only natural that they use their search engine in their OS. But what is that going to do to the market? Well most people use IE because its the default. Most people who use IE will use Bing because it will be the default. Microsoft was just complaining to the FTC not too long ago about Google and Yahoo partnering. I wonder how Google feels about Microsoft using Windows and IE to push Bing?

RE: not yet
by kragil on Fri 3rd Jul 2009 21:06 in reply to "not yet"
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2006-01-04

???

They always did that with Live search and MSN and whatever and it has never worked.

So what are you talking about?

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RE[2]: not yet
by sbergman27 on Fri 3rd Jul 2009 22:12 in reply to "RE: not yet"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

They always did that with Live search and MSN and whatever and it has never worked.

Indeed, you are correct. And when you think about it, with that much of an unfair advantage, its pretty amazing that they have managed to do so poorly for so long. These are the kinds of things I think about when certain blinkered "free enterprise!" people try to tell me that MS has gotten where they are by making better products than their competition. Sometimes their overwhelming desktop monopoly leverage is strong enough to push inferior products into their own monopoly positions. But sometimes the product is *so* inferior that not even overwhelming monopoly leverage is enough to force people to use it.

Edited 2009-07-03 22:16 UTC

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RE[2]: not yet
by TechGeek on Sat 4th Jul 2009 02:08 in reply to "RE: not yet"
TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

kragil and others: Yes, Microsoft to date has had quite crappy search products. The problem is that they dont have to be better than everyone else. They only have to be good enough to not be shunned. Look at IE. Even when it was at its worst, it was still the dominant browser simply because it was the default and most people were unable/too lazy to change. I dont want to see that happen to Google because they actually earned their position.

Edited 2009-07-04 02:09 UTC

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RE[2]: not yet
by arpan on Sat 4th Jul 2009 11:05 in reply to "RE: not yet"
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2006-07-30

They did get a foothold. They got a 7% or 8% market share. Without IE they would probably have maybe 1% of the market.

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RE: not yet
by broken_symlink on Fri 3rd Jul 2009 21:06 in reply to "not yet"
broken_symlink Member since:
2005-07-06

Probably because that isn't going to happen and you are wrong. I don't know if you've used IE 8, but there is this search providers box that comes up when you run it for the first time. Also MS isn't just entering the search market. They've been in it for a while.

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RE: not yet
by lqsh on Fri 3rd Jul 2009 21:42 in reply to "not yet"
lqsh Member since:
2007-01-01

Now where do you think they are going to get that new market dominance from? Well from the fact that Bing will be the default search engine in IE.


I'd say that most users (even non-geeks) would say, "How to I get to Google so I can search", not just start using Bing.

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RE[2]: not yet
by Bobthearch on Fri 3rd Jul 2009 21:58 in reply to "RE: not yet"
Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

That's exactly right. "Where's Google?" And two seconds later, "Oh, there it is."

I've been less-than-impressed with each of Microsoft's online efforts to date. Maybe I'll try "Bing" just to check it out, but most likely I won't bother.

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