Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 4th Jul 2009 00:40 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Now this is interesting news that hit my inbox at 2:22 AM (don't ask). It seems like the concept of selling Mac clones is more lucrative than many have anticipated, as I've just been informed via email that the German PearC has expanded its business into the BeNeLux (Belgium, The Netherlands, Luxembourg) and France. Together with the news that Psystar emerged from chapter 11, it looks like the market for Mac clones is more lucrative than many of us had imagined.
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tyrione
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2005-11-21

I would prefer, if companies would not tell us what we can and cannot do with our hard earned money.

Personally if I want to different oil in my car, use different carts in my printer or a different OS on my computer, I shouldn't have to go to jail or be sued.

This corporate fascist society we have here in the United States is getting to be a pain in the arse, where you can't own anything, only corporations do.

Yet, the private citizen pays the majority of the taxes.

If it wasn't for the fact the political system in the USA is so bought off, I would start a political movement.

It just won't make a difference.

-Hack


You somehow think paying $129 for an operating system means you own it?

You bought a license to use it on your systems for however long those systems run.

You can always hire a team to write you an operating system.

That oughta be cheap.

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dmantione Member since:
2005-07-06


You somehow think paying $129 for an operating system means you own it?

You bought a license to use it on your systems for however long those systems run.

Are you one of the people that thinks "owning" software is about owning the intellectual property rights?

This is about owning copies of the software. I.e. a shop has a copy of the software in property, sells this to customer, result is the copy of the software becomes the customer's property.

As everyone can do with his property as he sees fit, the seller looses all power to control how the software is being used. As long as the customer does not violate Apple's copyrights, Apple has no right at all to enforce what people do with their property.

Regarding licenses, it is important to distinguish copyright licenses from EULAs. A copyright license gives someone permission do things copyright law normally forbit. The GNU GPL is an example of a copyright license.

On the other hand an EULA tries to control what a user tries to do with the software. They directly conflict with the principles of selling and the sales agreement, which is a very important principle in laws of European countries. The invoice often being used as the proof of the sales agreement. After both parties have fullfilled their requirements of the sales agreement (seller: give the software, buyer: pay), it is considered closed and the software has changed property.

There can be away to legally do EULAs: Make them part of the sales agreement, if there is a way the consumer can read the EULA before the sale, a reference on the invoice is then enough. However, even in this case, the seller transfers his property rights to the buyer, loosing a lot of control.

Summary: You can own software after having paid $129 and the EULA is most of the times illegal (but not always), not because it is forbidden, but it is simply incompatible with the law principles in many European countries.

Edited 2009-07-05 07:06 UTC

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gustl Member since:
2006-01-19

You somehow think paying $129 for an operating system means you own it?


I think paying €100 for a COPY of an OS makes me the rightful owner of this particular copy. I am bound by copyright laws, but otherwise I can do what I please with it.

You bought a license to use it on your systems for however long those systems run.


I bought a copy of an OS, and am given the right to fair use it. I am allowed by copyright to make a backup copy of it, and install it onto one computer to put it to the use advertised by the copyright owner.
ANY terms and conditions made known to me AFTER the sales contract was signed and which want to take away some rights I assumed of having when buying the CD are simply invalid.

And quite frankly, I do not understand what Apple is whining about, they are paid handsomely for their OS.

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