Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Jul 2009 22:03 UTC
Legal It was more or less not a question of if, but when, and now we're here: the US Department of Justice is said to launch an investigation into the US telecommunications industry to see if the two biggest players, AT&T and Verizon, are abusing their market position. Even though Apple is not a target for the probe, the usually trustworthy Wall Street Journal states that the iPhone/AT&T deal will also come under scrutiny [subscr. req.].
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RE[3]: Wow, so attractive...
by DrillSgt on Mon 6th Jul 2009 23:20 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Wow, so attractive..."
DrillSgt
Member since:
2005-12-02

But why do you expect to rely on a carrier for a phone?

Do you rely on your internet service for a computer?

That's the real problem with these national mobile phone scams.


That is the problem in the US. You can't buy any phone and expect it to work with your carrier. Either the carrier offers it, or they will not turn it on for their service. The iPhone is a prime example, as to have one you *have* to use AT&T. Basically you are stuck with the phones your carrier has, or pay the exhorbitant fee to cancel your contract and go with the carrier that has the phone you want.

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RE[4]: Wow, so attractive...
by tyrione on Tue 7th Jul 2009 04:19 in reply to "RE[3]: Wow, so attractive..."
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

"But why do you expect to rely on a carrier for a phone?

Do you rely on your internet service for a computer?

That's the real problem with these national mobile phone scams.


That is the problem in the US. You can't buy any phone and expect it to work with your carrier. Either the carrier offers it, or they will not turn it on for their service. The iPhone is a prime example, as to have one you *have* to use AT&T. Basically you are stuck with the phones your carrier has, or pay the exhorbitant fee to cancel your contract and go with the carrier that has the phone you want.
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That deal was a requirement by Verizon, T-Mobile USA or AT&T for Apple to get into the phone business.

Only AT&T accepted Apple's terms regarding hands off the platform and device/Apple aided AT&T in their 3G build out and testing.

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TemporalBeing Member since:
2007-08-22

"But why do you expect to rely on a carrier for a phone?

Do you rely on your internet service for a computer?

That's the real problem with these national mobile phone scams.


That is the problem in the US. You can't buy any phone and expect it to work with your carrier. Either the carrier offers it, or they will not turn it on for their service. The iPhone is a prime example, as to have one you *have* to use AT&T. Basically you are stuck with the phones your carrier has, or pay the exhorbitant fee to cancel your contract and go with the carrier that has the phone you want.
"

Not entirely true. AT&T and other GSM network-based services (T-mobile) has no control over which phone you actually use - only the SIM card in the phone.

So you can go buy an OpenMoko, pop the SIM card in and off you go.

On the other hand, you do have to be careful about what frequencies the phone uses and make sure it is compatible with the carrier.

You can get a lot of phones directly from manufacturers - e.g. Motorola - at full price without having anything locked, and be able to use it on AT&T or T-Mobiles network for instance.

Personally, I'm planning on getting an OpenMoko soon and using it with my AT&T account in the U.S.

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