Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Jul 2009 22:03 UTC
Legal It was more or less not a question of if, but when, and now we're here: the US Department of Justice is said to launch an investigation into the US telecommunications industry to see if the two biggest players, AT&T and Verizon, are abusing their market position. Even though Apple is not a target for the probe, the usually trustworthy Wall Street Journal states that the iPhone/AT&T deal will also come under scrutiny [subscr. req.].
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RE: Uncompetitive competition
by kaiwai on Tue 7th Jul 2009 06:26 UTC in reply to "Uncompetitive competition"
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

What can you do when 2 players use CDMA and 2 players use GSM and the GSM players are so far behind in supporting 3G data technology?

Qualcomm announced a chipset recently that covers all the bases, but that's likely to find its way into a courtroom, knowing how things work.

Unfortunately, it's a national market where no one (carriers, vendors, customers, government) really cares. Until everyone is using the same technologies, the government is spinning its wheels doing an investigation.


From what I understand, AT&T is moving to WCDMA 850Mhz and 850/2100 in the cities for extra capacity - so there is the right balance of capacity and coverage. I'm unsure how far along AT&T is with their deployment but in New Zealand and Australia it is pretty much under way already.

There is no reason why the US is so far behind the eighth ball considering there are countries out there with lower GDP per capita and less wealthy country in GDP numbers who are further ahead when it comes to technology deployments.

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bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23


From what I understand, AT&T is moving to WCDMA 850Mhz and 850/2100 in the cities for extra capacity - so there is the right balance of capacity and coverage. I'm unsure how far along AT&T is with their deployment but in New Zealand and Australia it is pretty much under way already.

There is no reason why the US is so far behind the eighth ball considering there are countries out there with lower GDP per capita and less wealthy country in GDP numbers who are further ahead when it comes to technology deployments.


There is no good reason. The government isn't in tune with citizens' needs.

AT&T are probably not as far advanced as Verizon were in 2007 and Sprint were in 2006 with their 3G data network. It should be embarrassing. I thought that they were using W-CDMA/UMTS early because it was cheaper and then, started to put HS*PA in speed critical areas.

I just wish they'd all work together, other than the bit about colluding on SMS pricing.

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

There is no good reason. The government isn't in tune with citizens' needs.


Unfortunately what happens it there is massive fracturing in the market - of the 1.2trillion that was spent, what the US government could have done was provided low interest loans (interest at the rate of inflation) or allow investments into infrastructure to be written off against not only present and future tax payments but also past tax payments.

AT&T are probably not as far advanced as Verizon were in 2007 and Sprint were in 2006 with their 3G data network. It should be embarrassing. I thought that they were using W-CDMA/UMTS early because it was cheaper and then, started to put HS*PA in speed critical areas.


What the US needs is four operators who operate nation wide networks (not just regional) so that there is real competition rather than just regionally based monopolies. Leadership won't be taken because I only need to look at some of the Nobel prize winners that exist in the congress and senate from both parties - its little wonder as to why the US is in the mess it is in today.

I mean, honestly, Rick Santorum - in any other country would a senator be voted in who had a fetish to constantly talk about homosexuality and sexual acts? These are the types of idiots that exist in the US who are being voted in - in any other country they would be relegated to the lowest position on the list mp selection and kept at the back - far out of sight from the public.

For 8 years I saw the US consumed by the debate over gay marriage - the economy is going to hell in a hand basket, the infrastructure is falling to pieces before your eyes and your telecommunications infrastructure is a joke which makes many developing economies look futuristic. All those problems but apparently gay marriage, something that effects less than 10% of the population is the all consuming issue of the United States.

Congratulations, that is why the US the way it is; trivial sh*t consuming the air waves, political debates and policy decisions rather than long term policies that focus the energies of a nation in a given direction.

Edited 2009-07-07 09:49 UTC

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