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Agree. No parts of .NET are covered except C# and CLI.
Please read through Annex D of the EMCA 334 spec. This pretty much lays out what is included as part of the "C# language".
This conclusion is strongly supported by the act of Mono splitting itself into two parts ... essentially being one part which is covered, and one which is not.
The spit is entirely driven by the hysteria you and others like yourself exhibit with regards to Mono.
What it does mean, happily, is that recent announcements by Debian and Ubuntu have lost a lot of import ... both can now ship just one half of Mono (the covered half) as part of the default install.
So GNOME will have the covered parts of Mono installed by default ... that is almost a guaranteed outcome now.
This will quite possibly cause some defections from GNOME.
So GNOME will have the covered parts of Mono installed by default ... that is almost a guaranteed outcome now.
This will quite possibly cause some defections from GNOME.
Yay, progress! Hmmm...
RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by Slambert666 on Tue 7th Jul 2009 16:03
in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
So GNOME will have the covered parts of Mono installed by default ... that is almost a guaranteed outcome now.
This will quite possibly cause some defections from GNOME.
This will quite possibly cause some defections from GNOME.
I completely agree, and I think it is a good thing. The gnome community will come out of this much stronger than it was before.
RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by sbergman27 on Tue 7th Jul 2009 16:18
in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
So GNOME will have the covered parts of Mono installed by default ... that is almost a guaranteed outcome now.
What this does is to allow decisions regarding the covered portions to be made on a technical basis. Mono has some problems on that front; Notably, resource usage. But those issues have, so far, mostly gotten lost in the heated political debate.
This will quite possibly cause some defections from GNOME.
Ever the KDE troll, huh, Hal? An alternative, or perhaps complementary view, would be of an influx of devs who prefer a safer, managed language to the buffer overflow minefield that is C++.
I'm hardly an enthusiastic Mono/C# fan. But at least this legally binding promise, and clear separation of code, will neutralize the political doomsayers and allow the debate to move on to matters of technical merit.
Edited 2009-07-07 16:18 UTC
"So GNOME will have the covered parts of Mono installed by default ... that is almost a guaranteed outcome now.
What this does is to allow decisions regarding the covered portions to be made on a technical basis. Mono has some problems on that front; Notably, resource usage. But those issues have, so far, mostly gotten lost in the heated political debate. This will quite possibly cause some defections from GNOME.
Ever the KDE troll, huh, Hal? An alternative, or perhaps complementary view, would be of an influx of devs who prefer a safer, managed language to the buffer overflow minefield that is C++. I'm hardly an enthusiastic Mono/C# fan. But at least this legally binding promise, and clear separation of code, will neutralize the political doomsayers and allow the debate to move on to matters of technical merit. " http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Qyoto
http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Languages/Smoke
Edited 2009-07-08 01:43 UTC




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The way I read the agreement is that the promise is only over the ECMA specifications
Agree. No parts of .NET are covered except C# and CLI.
This conclusion is strongly supported by the act of Mono splitting itself into two parts ... essentially being one part which is covered, and one which is not.
What it does mean, happily, is that recent announcements by Debian and Ubuntu have lost a lot of import ... both can now ship just one half of Mono (the covered half) as part of the default install.
So GNOME will have the covered parts of Mono installed by default ... that is almost a guaranteed outcome now.
This will quite possibly cause some defections from GNOME.