Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Jul 2009 08:51 UTC, submitted by PLan
Mono Project We've already seen some heavy discussion on Mono and C# here on OSNews the past few weeks, as it became clear the patent situation regarding the ECMA parts of Mono was anything but faith inspiring. This issue seems to be resolved now: Microsoft has made a legally binding promise not to sue anyone who uses or distributes implementations of said ECMA standards. Following this news, Mono will be split in two; the ECMA standard parts, and the rest.
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RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai
by lemur2 on Tue 7th Jul 2009 11:10 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai"
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

Except Amarok has vertical tabs, for which its developers will be sent to hell.

And of course, he was talking about the GNOME desktop.


Of course he was talking about the GNOME desktop.

What he said (when you boil it down) was that in some cases, if you want the best applications for GNOME, then you must have Mono installed ... and I agree ... and what I then went on to say was that if you want equivalent good applications for Linux, without Mono dependencies, then the thing to do is switch your desktop to KDE4.

I tried to be brief ... but some people try to twist your meaning when you do that ... so if you want me always to ramble on with long explanations like the above, Thom, then you are going the right way about it.

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RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai
by elsewhere on Tue 7th Jul 2009 16:34 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai"
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

and what I then went on to say was that if you want equivalent good applications for Linux, without Mono dependencies, then the thing to do is switch your desktop to KDE4.


Switching desktops is overkill, KDE4 apps will run in Gnome; if anyone is willing to accept the overhead of mono for a music app or app launcher, then the kde base libs shouldn't be an issue either.

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RE[6]: Comment by kaiwai
by lemur2 on Wed 8th Jul 2009 01:33 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"and what I then went on to say was that if you want equivalent good applications for Linux, without Mono dependencies, then the thing to do is switch your desktop to KDE4.
Switching desktops is overkill, KDE4 apps will run in Gnome; if anyone is willing to accept the overhead of mono for a music app or app launcher, then the kde base libs shouldn't be an issue either. "

Well yes, except that if you take the approach of running the equivalent KDE4 apps under GNOME, then you still have the problem of having to have Mono installed.

So what I actually said still stands: "if you want equivalent good applications for Linux, without Mono dependencies, then the thing to do is switch your desktop to KDE4".

Just as GNOME can run KDE4 apps, so too can KDE4 run GNOME apps.

Edited 2009-07-08 01:34 UTC

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RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai
by r_a_trip on Wed 8th Jul 2009 14:35 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai"
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

Lemur, as an INTP to an INTJ, it sometimes does pay off to add more "fluff". I have no problems grasping the frame from which you write your posts, but our types form two minorities in the world.

I've always bumped into people not understanding me, to the point of me now explaining pretty much everything. Sometimes to the annoyance of the people around me.

As for KDE4 having comparable technology... Good to see alternatives available. It doesn't help though if you <u>want</u> to run Gnome as your desktop.

Still, if you only use ECMA-MONO + Gnome technology, you can use Tomboy, FSpot, Beagle and Gnome-DO safely, without having to worry about MS dragging you to court over their core .NET patents.

Now that MS has clarified their position on their patents, I wonder what the other ECMA participants Intel and HP think about their patents and the core of .NET.

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