Linked by Jordan Spencer Cunningham on Wed 8th Jul 2009 18:34 UTC, submitted by rlem6983
Google Google's recent move of revealing the Chrome OS to a suspecting public has put a great many people on alert. Some say it's a major privacy issue, some say Google oughtn't to become more and more monopolistic, while others think that the wide array of popular Linux distributions shouldn't become even more fragmented than it already is. "Google's decision to create its own Linux distribution and splinter the Linux community decisively once again can only be seen as foolhardy and self-obsessive. Instead of treading its own path, Google should have sought to leverage the stellar work already carried out by Mark Shuttleworth and his band of merry coders and tied its horse to the Ubuntu cart."
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RE[3]: No thanks Ubuntu.
by Lunitik on Wed 8th Jul 2009 21:49 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: No thanks Ubuntu."
Lunitik
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2005-08-07

How is upstart useful?

I reboot MAYBE every couple weeks, I really don't care about a boot up sequence. They still haven't even delivered on the promise of upstart though... still using sysvinit based initscripts mostly.

Most of Ubuntu's contributions don't amount to much, and nothing they've done is significant in any way. Their hardware tool obviously doesn't help if you ever hang out in #ubuntu for instance. Every release that channel is packed with users who have had it fail.

As for their random patches, would be nice if they did a little more than just throwing them up on a site out of the way - expecting upstreams to go to that page regularly. As for things like UFW, lol... worst firewall implementation I've ever seen.

You state that I just dislike Ubuntu because of its marketing and the like? Aren't you doing something similar stating that Ubuntu based technology is supperior?

On my current system, I'm neither using PulseAudio, or any of the worthless crap Ubuntu has come out with.


EDIT: Also, lets note that GKH's reports were based on the kernel itself. Ubuntu is always praised for its hardware support... guess what? Without contributing to the parts GKH's results studied, they have absolutely NOTHING to do with that. All Ubuntu does is provide mashed together interfaces supposed to make things easier... they do nothing to make things BETTER.

Trying to work around real issues in the Linux world does not make things better, it just hides the issue, making it less likely that people will look into the technical issues that make it necessary.

Edited 2009-07-08 22:07 UTC

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RE[4]: No thanks Ubuntu.
by helf on Wed 8th Jul 2009 22:18 in reply to "RE[3]: No thanks Ubuntu."
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

I shutdown my netbook if I'm not going to be using it for more than a day. And when I decide to use it, I don't want my boot times taking forever. It is definitely useful for some people.

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RE[5]: No thanks Ubuntu.
by Lunitik on Thu 9th Jul 2009 23:27 in reply to "RE[4]: No thanks Ubuntu."
Lunitik Member since:
2005-08-07

Thing is, no distro these days takes longer than around 30 seconds to boot... so what is so special about upstart? Ubuntu weren't even the group that pioneered faster bootup, it was mostly Red Hat and Novell, and Ubuntu kinda came along for the ride.

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