Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jul 2009 12:09 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y During the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit, Richard M. Stallman of the Free Software Foundation (and the Superfluous Introduction Award goes to...) gave a keynote speech. Said keynote speech raised a few eyebrows in the Free software community because of a number of questionable remarks regarding women in technology. David "Lefty" Schlesinger, member of the GNOME Advisory Board and active in the mobile open source community, took issue with RMS' remarks and decided to call him out on it. The response he got was... Less than satisfying.
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One more reason to dislike RMS
by WereCatf on Thu 9th Jul 2009 12:22 UTC
WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

I've never liked RMS. He seems to only regard his own opinions as worth of believing in, he can be pretty arrogant, and he has this very black-and-white view of the whole world. But to add such sexist "jokes" in his speech just makes him look even worse. Yes, I am an "EMACS virgin" in a sense that I've never used it, nor do I plan to, but it does not mean I need help learning it if I so wish nor does it give him any right to criticize me or any of my female friends who them either haven't used EMACS.

Agh, I'm so annoyed right now >_<

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samad Member since:
2006-03-31

If you think RMS thinks of the world in black in white too much, you obviously haven't heard of ESR. He believes in things far crazier than RMS, like:
- The world climate problems are vastly overstated and are, in fact, irrelevant
- Trade unions = fascism
- Intelligence can be quantified
- Africans are biologically predisposed to be stupider than Caucasians

The open source world needs less crazies.

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Maki Member since:
2009-06-28

ESR ?

(Edit) it's Eric S Raymond

Edited 2009-07-09 12:39 UTC

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Yamin Member since:
2006-01-10

Not saying I agree with RMS on those things you call 'crazy', but...

I happen to think all of those positions could be argued rationally and a few of them are closer to the truth than the opposing beliefs. I *highly doubt* RMS is just ignorant on those issues.

I don't want to go into each of those crazy beliefs, as they're highly inflammatory and not worth diverting this thread.

Suffice to say, diversity includes diversity of ideas.

However, RMS does need to lose his virginity to that little voice in his head. He used unneeded inflammatory comments. His EMACS point could have easily been made without the conflict. I myself am an EMACS virgin. As a matter of fact, I'd say that EMACS has molested me in the ass. (did I offend the victim of sexual assault or gays there... totally unneeded to make my point.. which is the point ;) )

Whenever you give a presentation, you have to listen to that voice in your head that tells you what point an I trying to make... is this kind of language needed? Just as you don't say You Mother F**King POS whenever you're frustrated at some manager, you can also shield yourself from politically inflammatory language ;)

I'm as guilty as anyone of pushing the enveloper and poking fun while trying to make a point... suffice to say... I outgrew my teens.

Edited 2009-07-09 13:10 UTC

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No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

Perhaps you should read what he says instead of spouting off nonsense like all the other haters. Others will read what you write, some of them will think you're right, and start repeating the same bullshit. Just like you.

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Yes, I am an "EMACS virgin" in a sense that I've never used it

Well, honey, I guess that makes me an EMACS Virgin Queen. Of course, I have tried it a couple of times and just didn't like it. So maybe I don't really count.

Please pardon my temporary lapse of decorum. :-)

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Your response is a prime example of someone not understanding the Joke. Which is very dangerous for comedians and would be comedians. Its not that you don't think its funny ( I certainly think its pretty lame), but you really, really don't understand the style of the joke.

I once made a joke to someone in response to what I thought was a joke directed at me. Turns out, he wasn't joking, he *was* trying to insult me and thought my return joke *was* trying to insult him. He almost killed me. I've learned that I cannot have people in my life that do not understand my humor, as they are more likely to kill me than laugh at me.

So, I don't think we could ever be friends WereCatf. And I'll try to refrain from making jokes in your presence, but its a part of who I am and have little voluntary control over it. I apologize in advance if anything I say offends you.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

I dont like EMACS at all. Does that make me Visexual?

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