Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jul 2009 12:09 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y During the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit, Richard M. Stallman of the Free Software Foundation (and the Superfluous Introduction Award goes to...) gave a keynote speech. Said keynote speech raised a few eyebrows in the Free software community because of a number of questionable remarks regarding women in technology. David "Lefty" Schlesinger, member of the GNOME Advisory Board and active in the mobile open source community, took issue with RMS' remarks and decided to call him out on it. The response he got was... Less than satisfying.
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pcunite
Member since:
2008-08-26

Richard Stallman is a large reason why I no longer push Linux. The Linux community is some type of club where you have to do a weird handshake to get in.

Computers are like automobiles... they serve a purpose. We are automotive mechanics folks, not gods with everyone else being silly women.

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Jokel Member since:
2006-06-01

Wow!

So the whole quality of an OS depends on how some minority of people remotely associated with actual development are acting in public. You trying to tell me this?

Let's see - I think Balmer did a stupid thing with his "monkey-dance", so -using your logic- all Microsoft products has to be completely and utterly rotten, an cannot be advised to use - right?

Seems logical to me then...

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pcunite Member since:
2008-08-26

Wow! So the whole quality of an OS depends on how some minority of people remotely associated with actual development are acting in public. You trying to tell me this? Let's see - I think Balmer did a stupid thing with his "monkey-dance", so -using your logic- all Microsoft products has to be completely and utterly rotten, an cannot be advised to use - right? Seems logical to me then...


Stallman is not a minority, he is a leader. Balmer may do things silly but is not insulting users of his sytems. Balmer does not keep people from user his software by insulting them. No I am not a MS fanboy. I use linux servers every day.

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

Car machanics are a group that tends to treat women like they don't know a thing about cars, and talk down to them, try to rip them off (more than men, anyway, they generally try to rip everybody off), so I guess the analogy works

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Richard Stallman is a large reason why I no longer push Linux. The Linux community is some type of club where you have to do a weird handshake to get in.

Computers are like automobiles... they serve a purpose. We are automotive mechanics folks, not gods with everyone else being silly women.


Unfortunately I've found this not only in the 'Linux community' but the IT world in general - this alpha male, chest beating approach to computing where anyone who knows less than them are open to ridicule. Its the reason why I didn't continue my career in IT and instead treat it as a hobby rather than something I would do full time. Microsoft is a prime example of this dog eat dog mentality - where people instead of working together and encourage ideas to flourish, they're instead basically put into a situation where it is like a dog fight. Little wonder that products from Microsoft aren't the best ideas but instead ideas pushed by the biggest alpha male (and tending to be the dumbest one at the same time).

Maybe I'm not in the 'mainstream' of thinking, but I don't like competing with my coworkers when it comes to accomplishing a task; I would sooner work together constructively and get everyone's feedback - where as what I find is an attitude by some where their primary concern is climbing the greasy pole instead of working, getting paid and the satisfaction not necessarily through 'promotions' but knowing that you achieved something as a group where everyone played their part.

Edited 2009-07-09 14:58 UTC

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righard Member since:
2007-12-26

Damn I can't stand Richad Stallman, don't like pretencious Steve Jobs, and have an aversion against Steve Ballmer,

I'm afraid I'll have to start using FreeDOS.

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