Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jul 2009 12:09 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y During the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit, Richard M. Stallman of the Free Software Foundation (and the Superfluous Introduction Award goes to...) gave a keynote speech. Said keynote speech raised a few eyebrows in the Free software community because of a number of questionable remarks regarding women in technology. David "Lefty" Schlesinger, member of the GNOME Advisory Board and active in the mobile open source community, took issue with RMS' remarks and decided to call him out on it. The response he got was... Less than satisfying.
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sexism
by t-47 on Thu 9th Jul 2009 14:35 UTC
t-47
Member since:
2009-07-09

Ok - RMS told a stupid joke - I can understand what the fuss is about. I wonder why nobody reacts when articles like "Ubuntu is so easy that even my girlfriend can use it" top on the digg. Sexism among so called nerds is quite common.

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RE: sexism
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 9th Jul 2009 14:37 in reply to "sexism"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Yes, but RMS is not your everyday nerd.

Imagine if Steve Jobs or Bill Gates made a similar speech. The world would be aflame.

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RE[2]: sexism
by dylansmrjones on Thu 9th Jul 2009 16:13 in reply to "RE: sexism"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

No it wouldn't.

In case of Steve Jobs, the RDF would take care of it. And in case of Bill Gates, "analysts" would hail him as being the new Master of the Universe, and would write long content-less articles about how the next version of Windows would take care of female IT-virgins and liberate them from the patriarchal society which keeps oppressing them - or something similar and just as stupid.

-dylansmrjones

*** Besides that, patents should be abolished ***

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RE[2]: sexism
by righard on Thu 9th Jul 2009 18:19 in reply to "RE: sexism"
righard Member since:
2007-12-26

Your right, the world would be aflame after Bill Gates proclaims that he likes to take away girls' emac-virginity.

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RE[2]: sexism
by xDisruptor on Fri 10th Jul 2009 07:25 in reply to "RE: sexism"
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2006-01-04

Steve jobs is steve jobs and bill bates is bill bates. Like when _should_ anyone behave like anyone. And even if Steve Jobs `Stallmaned' the crowd with something like this the civilized world would keep going as usual. Stop beating ppl over the head with the nerfbat of political correctness only to malform even more wannabe intellectual snobs who think that sunlight comes out of their arses. These people distract attention from the real issues by encouraging societies to keeping aiming at shadows over made-up non-issues.

This is what political correctness is doing and we dont buy into such b*****t anymore. It's over.

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RE: sexism
by PrimalDK on Sat 11th Jul 2009 10:22 in reply to "sexism"
PrimalDK Member since:
2005-07-12

Ok - RMS told a stupid joke - I can understand what the fuss is about. I wonder why nobody reacts when articles like "Ubuntu is so easy that even my girlfriend can use it" top on the digg. Sexism among so called nerds is quite common.


Actually, "nerds" say things like that because it's true. All my ex-girlfriends and the woman I'm married to have generally been less competent using computers than I have, by far. No wonder - I've been at the keys since I was 8 and wrote my first program at 9.

The point is, when a nerd says "even my girlfriend can use it" it means precisely that: The girlfriends of computer nerds will ALWAYS be inferior users of computers and their software than the nerds, unless they themselves are computer nerds.

I find the term "nerd" ridiculous, btw, because it's so commonly confused with the term "geek". How about telling it like it is?

We take things seriously which the general population, because of their lack of interest, find boring and have a hard time relating to. That is, until recently...

Now, after The Matrix, suddenly the geek is cool. Turns out it's easy to find a store and a stylist, a lot harder to acquire the expertise someone has from 15+ years of hard work "playing" with HIS toys (sorry Eugenia).

The term "loser" is thrown around like it actually means something, but what I find is that the people who use that term tend to be the people who 5 years later are packing my groceries at the local supermarket (no offense to the nice people working at grocery stores).

I have a hard time understanding why so many of you so desperately crave a world where everybody looks and speaks what you consider "appropriate". If the world wasn't a multi-colored, multi-ethnic, multi-facetted place, where would you go when you'd left your caves?

The things that you take for granted, the luxuries that you enjoy, were invented by dorks/nerds/geeks like me, not by people who's main occupation was categorizing people as "in" or "out". This is fact, not something I care to discuss (so please don't argue).

If you need to watch some "nerds" working their magic, go to Ted.com (http://ted.com) and run through a few lectures.

You might learn something, though part of me doubts it. The mouth has always been bigger than the brain...

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