Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jul 2009 12:09 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y During the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit, Richard M. Stallman of the Free Software Foundation (and the Superfluous Introduction Award goes to...) gave a keynote speech. Said keynote speech raised a few eyebrows in the Free software community because of a number of questionable remarks regarding women in technology. David "Lefty" Schlesinger, member of the GNOME Advisory Board and active in the mobile open source community, took issue with RMS' remarks and decided to call him out on it. The response he got was... Less than satisfying.
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sbergman27
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2005-07-24

You say "it's all about timing", and I ask: "Who's timing"? Yours?

No. That of the expected audience. Both present and possibly reading transcripts, watching any recorded video, or listening to any recorded audio.

What is "inappropriate"?

That which could reasonably be expected to offend the audience, as specified above.

Who told you so?

In retrospect... I believe we can say: The Audience.

Did you make that decision on your own? Did your parents teach you?

No. The audience has.

What makes it right/true?

Not the point. The point is that he, as an FS leader, advocate, and as close a thing to an official representative as one can imagine, has exercised damned poor judgement and then denied responsibility. Metaphorically speaking, this is something like simply disappearing into the night after the "deflowering", leaving others to face the consequences.

Edited 2009-07-09 21:30 UTC

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PrimalDK Member since:
2005-07-12

"Exercised poor judgement"?

The audience is a meassure of what is poor judgement?

I think you are preaching the masses being right *because* they are the masses. RMS seems to me to be just the character to revolt against that notion, with which I - like him - disagree.

I like my freedom of speech, which is why I'll joke about subjects that are "inappropriate" like, say, religion, no matter who might take offense. The people who do can then exercise their freedom of speech and joke about something else. The key is to *not make it personal*, and "women" is not a personal pronoun.

RMS works *for* the masses, which will just as soon judge him for cracking "the wrong joke" as hail him for the relentless work he's put into securing their freedom.

History repeats itself.

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

"Exercised poor judgement"?

The audience is a meassure of what is poor judgement?

Michael, it's the first rule of persuasion: Don't offend or insult your audience.

Once you've done that, you may as well just give up. You can see the effect quite clearly in the relevant threads here on OSNews. Unless you want to argue that Richard and the FSF don't care about being persuasive, you pretty much have to admit that his "joke" was a poor move.

Edited 2009-07-09 21:53 UTC

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dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

I like my freedom of speech,

As do I. I'm huge proponent of freedom of speech. However this really has nothing to do with freedom of speech. No on is saying that saying what RMS said should be illegal or censored.

which is why I'll joke about subjects that are "inappropriate" like, say, religion, no matter who might take offense.

And that is fair enough. You have every right to do so. But do so at the "wrong" time and place don't be surprised if people form a poor opinion of you and refuse to listen to your message. If you're cool with that, more power to you, but don't bitch about the consequences afterward.

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