Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jul 2009 12:09 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y During the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit, Richard M. Stallman of the Free Software Foundation (and the Superfluous Introduction Award goes to...) gave a keynote speech. Said keynote speech raised a few eyebrows in the Free software community because of a number of questionable remarks regarding women in technology. David "Lefty" Schlesinger, member of the GNOME Advisory Board and active in the mobile open source community, took issue with RMS' remarks and decided to call him out on it. The response he got was... Less than satisfying.
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PrimalDK
Member since:
2005-07-12

Steve,

As much as it may be "the first rule" it may not be true. RMS has always stood for something beyond persuasion. If he had been interested in persuading his audience only, why would he have the roster of offending all walks of life?

A poor move it was, if all RMS was interested in was appeasing his audience(s). If this was the case he'd be wearing "appropriate" clothes, have an "appropriate" haircut, and not appear the 70s relic without a clue about the "appropriate" future of software.

Looks may deceive, as they say.

I'll take a person who will bring up things that *Rock My Boat* and provoke debate anytime over a person who will forfeit mentioning obvious tendencies in a joke for the sake of appearing "appropriate".

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

I'll take a person who will bring up things that *Rock My Boat* and provoke debate anytime over a person who will forfeit mentioning obvious tendencies in a joke for the sake of appearing "appropriate".

I take it, then, that you feel that Richard has served some "greater purpose" in this instance, which transcends even the value of his Free Software cause. That's cool. So... what is it?

Sometimes a rose is just a rose. And sometimes a gaffe is just a gaffe. And sometimes denying responsibility and playing the victim is just denying responsibility and playing the victim.

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dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

I'll take a person who will bring up things that *Rock My Boat* and provoke debate anytime over a person who will forfeit mentioning obvious tendencies in a joke for the sake of appearing "appropriate"

You say it as if it's impossible to do both.

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PrimalDK Member since:
2005-07-12

You say it as if it's impossible to do both.


Of course it's not: you can certainly make jokes both clean and proper, and they can still Rock Your Boat.

They just won't be rocking mine.

Reminds me of the F-word, which I can't say, just as I can't say another couple of thousand. Just as I can't compare any of another few thousand. Just as I can't dress any of a few thousand ways in a few thousand contexts. Just as I can't talk politics, religion or sex at a dinner party, despite all guests having political views, views on religion, and hopefully sex (though not at the party).

There are so many things I can't do, thankfully.

Imagine if I had to make up my mind on my own, without the support of the moral institutions like church, state, company, and - most importantly - the People.

Imagine a world where I might actually risk offending someone every time I opened my mouth. What a nightmare. What a waste of perfectly good quality time.

Effen underground-place-of-fire! My mouse just died! Now what do I do?!

What do you mean "use the keyboard"??!!!

I'm a Modern Man, you offspring-of-a-certain-female-canine.

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