Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jul 2009 12:09 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y During the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit, Richard M. Stallman of the Free Software Foundation (and the Superfluous Introduction Award goes to...) gave a keynote speech. Said keynote speech raised a few eyebrows in the Free software community because of a number of questionable remarks regarding women in technology. David "Lefty" Schlesinger, member of the GNOME Advisory Board and active in the mobile open source community, took issue with RMS' remarks and decided to call him out on it. The response he got was... Less than satisfying.
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RE[5]: What an utter non-issue
by Moredhas on Thu 9th Jul 2009 22:55 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: What an utter non-issue"
Moredhas
Member since:
2008-04-10

I'm a human not a huperson. "Mankind" is a set that includes women, and if there were women in the army back then, the grand old Duke of York would still have and ten thousand men. I find "man" to be gender neutral enough in most circumstances, and the male pronoun "he" should do for a neutral one. Obviously wouldn't say "he" when you're specifically talking about a woman, but it's good enough for talking about some hypothetical person.

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MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

Agreed, but you'll get people saying that by using "he" to mean "he or she" you are perpetuating male domination through language patterns or something.

A gender neutral singular pronoun would not go amiss*. But please not, as the OP accused the Brits of using, "they". FFS.

*german has one. Ironically, it is "man". This is not the same word as "Mann" though ;)

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

In Denmark (and other Germanic-Scandinavian countries) we also have "man" which is different from "mand" (though they really have the same root).

I donĀ“t know about German, but in Danish "man" cannot always replace he (or she). Or at least it isn't "proper" Danish.

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RE[7]: What an utter non-issue
by Vanders on Sun 12th Jul 2009 23:53 in reply to "RE[6]: What an utter non-issue"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

A gender neutral singular pronoun would not go amiss*. But please not, as the OP accused the Brits of using, "they". FFS.


Er, I am British. We do use "they" as a gender neutral pronoun. I guess it sounds odd to you as you're not British...

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