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Definitely a matter of taste. And btw, what's so exciting about that link? Had those things since perhaps 1998... didn't you? "

You have never had those things (image browser, including video and basic image editing) out of the box on Windows at all. You still don't, to this day, since AFAIK, you have to get such a thing for Windows from a third party anyway.

KDE 4.3 functionality is going to blow Windows 7 away. Even KDE 4.2 people thought was better than Vista.

Windows 7 is going to be seriously blown away as far as looks goes, too:

http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=99442&file...

KDE4 is getting better at integrating GTK+ and KDE4/Qt applications into a unified theme:

http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=103741&fil...

GTK+ applications with KDE dialog boxes!

So there will be no trouble having say PolicyKit, PackageKit, Kontact, GIMP, OpenOffice 3.1, Firefox 3.5 along side Dolphin (or Krusader), Gwenview, Digikam, Amarok, VLC (or SMplayer), Kwrite (or Kate) and Okular on the same desktop. Out of the box. Windows 7 out of the box will come nowhere near it for functionality.

Meanwhile, you will be stuck on Windows 7 with the standard background, can you believe it?

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25827/1231/

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/03/29/microsoft-drops-personaliza...

How stupid is that?

Edited 2009-07-10 13:45 UTC

Only Starter has that, and Starter will not be sold on western markets. Doesn't make it any less of a stupid limitation, obviously.

Don't go FUDing about now, Lemur2.

On top of that, Linux distributions have been offering more functionality out of the box since god knows when. Didn't seem to have helped them until now, why would tomorrow be any different?

True you have to get third-party software: I didn't think difference was so subtle. Yet, via 3-party software, I can basically do that since 1998 or so. I can't see the difference, actually.

*Extended Remark*: are you aware that MS could have bundled these functionalities into Explorer ANY time? If they didn't do that it was mostly not to damage 3-party software and partners, the same way it never developed a proper A/V software and so on. Plus, Microsoft has to deal with anti-trust concerns when it packs features inside its software, something other people don't need to care about. While I might concede that Explorer cannot directly do what you meant (because of mentioned reasons), I hope you're aware that's not some kind of technological deficiency or open-source superiority: that's just pragmatic. Still, I was able to do that anyway so it's nothing so fancy to me.




Matter of taste, for sure ;-)


Are you kidding me? Are you trying to make me believe I should be happy because you solved the mess you created? I never had any problems like "unified themes", PolicyKit, PackageKit or something "on the same desktop". That's all mess you had to deal with. Glad that you solved it, though ;-)


Oh, is this another post in the series of "20xx will be Linux desktop year"?? Notice I put two "xx" so Linux has lots of time ;-)

Seriously, I'm glad if Linux solved its problems. But I never had such problems so I have nothing to be happy for. Just I'm not sure you could really tell me I've been limited for a long time and now I have all options because of KDE 4.2-3-4. I still have to see something I didn't already do years ago.

Take care.

Windows Vista comes with Windows Photo Gallery (image browser), Windows Movie Maker and Paint (yay!). I'm not pretending that they are better than the KDE counterparts, though.

However, to be fair, Microsoft can't implement a complete out-of-the-box experience even if they would like to because of anti-monopoly laws.


Eh, looks is a personal preference. Some people like clean environments, others enjoy the complex themes from E16/E17. Personally, I believe this shot look horrible, just like most KDE themes I've used or seen. Yet, I am sure that people are turned off by the looks of Leopard (OS X), even if I believe that's exactly how any DE should look.


Quite stupid. Don't make hasty generalizations though, as it's only for the Starter edition.

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As for Silverlight... eh, I couldn't care less about it. Is there anyone using it besides Microsoft?

Edited 2009-07-10 16:18 UTC