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Internet & Networking A day earlier than expected, Microsoft has released version 3 of its Flash alternative Silverlight, including a number of related tools to aid in Silverlight development. It comes with a whole lot of new features.
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RE[10]: Comment by kaiwai
by TBPrince on Fri 10th Jul 2009 14:11 UTC in reply to "RE[9]: Comment by kaiwai"
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You have never had those things (image browser, including video and basic image editing) out of the box on Windows at all. You still don't, to this day, since AFAIK, you have to get such a thing for Windows from a third party anyway.

True you have to get third-party software: I didn't think difference was so subtle. Yet, via 3-party software, I can basically do that since 1998 or so. I can't see the difference, actually.

*Extended Remark*: are you aware that MS could have bundled these functionalities into Explorer ANY time? If they didn't do that it was mostly not to damage 3-party software and partners, the same way it never developed a proper A/V software and so on. Plus, Microsoft has to deal with anti-trust concerns when it packs features inside its software, something other people don't need to care about. While I might concede that Explorer cannot directly do what you meant (because of mentioned reasons), I hope you're aware that's not some kind of technological deficiency or open-source superiority: that's just pragmatic. Still, I was able to do that anyway so it's nothing so fancy to me.



KDE 4.3 functionality is going to blow Windows 7 away.

Matter of taste, for sure ;-)

KDE4 is getting better at integrating GTK+ and KDE4/Qt applications into a unified theme: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=103741... GTK+ applications with KDE dialog boxes! So there will be no trouble having say PolicyKit, PackageKit, Kontact, GIMP, OpenOffice 3.1, Firefox 3.5 along side Dolphin (or Krusader), Gwenview, Digikam, Amarok, VLC (or SMplayer), Kwrite (or Kate) and Okular on the same desktop.

Are you kidding me? Are you trying to make me believe I should be happy because you solved the mess you created? I never had any problems like "unified themes", PolicyKit, PackageKit or something "on the same desktop". That's all mess you had to deal with. Glad that you solved it, though ;-)

Out of the box. Windows 7 out of the box will come nowhere near it for functionality. Meanwhile, you will be stuck on Windows 7 with the standard background, can you believe it? http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25827/1231/ http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/03/29/microsoft-drops-personaliza... How stupid is that?

Oh, is this another post in the series of "20xx will be Linux desktop year"?? Notice I put two "xx" so Linux has lots of time ;-)

Seriously, I'm glad if Linux solved its problems. But I never had such problems so I have nothing to be happy for. Just I'm not sure you could really tell me I've been limited for a long time and now I have all options because of KDE 4.2-3-4. I still have to see something I didn't already do years ago.

Take care.

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RE[11]: Comment by kaiwai
by lemur2 on Sat 11th Jul 2009 14:03 in reply to "RE[10]: Comment by kaiwai"
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*Extended Remark*: are you aware that MS could have bundled these functionalities into Explorer ANY time? If they didn't do that it was mostly not to damage 3-party software and partners, the same way it never developed a proper A/V software and so on. Plus, Microsoft has to deal with anti-trust concerns when it packs features inside its software, something other people don't need to care about. While I might concede that Explorer cannot directly do what you meant (because of mentioned reasons), I hope you're aware that's not some kind of technological deficiency or open-source superiority: that's just pragmatic. Still, I was able to do that anyway so it's nothing so fancy to me.


I am aware of all this ... but are you aware that none of it makes any difference to the consumer?

The consumer will see ... this is what I get with Windows 7, I am being asked to pay extra for that and that and that other thing as well ... yet I get all these things and more with Kubuntu Linux for free. And I can get even more stuff for free, and it is faster, and it doesn't get viruses, and there is no crappy adware applets or 30-day trials.

At least ... the consumer would see all that if any retailers were brave enough to show them ...

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