Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 14th Jul 2009 15:30 UTC
Amiga & AROS So we finally meet! You can't imagine how hard I've tried to get my hands on a machine that could run AmigaOS 4 in all its glory. I've never used the Amiga before - not during its heydays, and not during its afterglow - so it meant an unexplored world for me. You can imagine my excitement when ACube Systems, makers of the sam440ep board that runs AmigaOS 4.1, offered a review machine to me, built around their own PowerPC sam440ep flex motherboard.
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dylansmrjones
Member since:
2005-10-02

ACube does not actually produce the hardware. The boards are evaluation kits bought from AMCC and receive only slight modifications from ACube (overclocking and apparently also some extra memory).

EDIT: Of course they also assemble ACube systems which contain harddisk, graphics card and so on. But the board itself is designed by AMCC which btw. is a fabless company. So production no, assembling yes. To be as accurate as possible.

Edited 2009-07-14 16:34 UTC

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elwood Member since:
2006-02-09

Did you compare the Yosemite reference board and the Sam440 board made by ACube. I bet no!! :-)

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Yes, I have them compared. It is not the Yosemite-board ACube is using today. It is the Sequoia-board, overclocked to 733 MHz and with extra memory.

http://www.appliedmicro.com/Embedded/EvalKit_Family.pdf

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Lecta Member since:
2009-07-14

Uh? Where did you read that?

That's totally wrong.

ACube produces the board by itself and the board is quite different from the AMCC's eval board - the "Yosemite" (totally different I would say).
A reference board from AMCC costs about 1000 EUR so it would be very "costly" for ACube to buy them, doing "slight modifications" and resell a whole system for less than 700 EUR. They surely would not last for a long time doing that.

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

The evakits don't go for 1000 euro. They go for around 500 euro for the bigger ones in larger batches, according to AMCC.

EDIT: On the Acube website there is no claim of producing the boards themselves. They do however write it is based on the AMCC 440EP, which btw. have very similar specs (except not being overclocked and with less memory).

Edited 2009-07-14 17:49 UTC

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gregthecanuck Member since:
2006-05-30

Sorry but your statement on this product is completely inaccurate. It appears you are making assumptions without actually doing any real investigation.

Compare the board layouts of the reference design and the product produced (yes, produced) by ACube.

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dmantione Member since:
2005-07-06

A circuit board factory capable of producing motherboards costs a lot to keep running, you cannot do that with Amiga sales numbers. Normally companies like this hand over their CAD designs to such a factory that does the actual production.

Are you sure Acube have their own production facility?

Acube designing the board (maybe they receive reference CAD designs from AMCC and edit those) sounds plausible. Acube producing it themselves sounds unrealistic.

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