Linked by Hakime on Tue 14th Jul 2009 20:39 UTC
Internet & Networking It is not a secret that Apple is showing resistance to supporting Adobe's flash on the iPhone and that their efforts to add new features to HTML/CSS is driven towards reducing their dependence on Flash. Going further in that direction, the new hardware accelerated 3D CSS visual effects proposed for standards inclusion will be supported in Snow Leopard's Safari (it is already available in the latest Webkit nighty builds). An new impressive demo of the technology is available at Charles Ying blog.
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RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by alexandru_lz on Wed 15th Jul 2009 21:58 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai"
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I certainly agree that developer tools hopping along will make the situation bearable. I don't have any problems with the output being hackish, as long as my continuous interventions, debugging and headaches are not necessary for it to work.

For what it's worth, Qt's solution is cool enough. You could lay out the entire interface programmatically and it wouldn't hurt nearly as much as doing the same thing with CSS.

The problem, as I see it, is simply that HTML, CSS and to some extent JS were simply not made with web apps in mind. CSS is a great document layout language, but it will require a hefty amount of tools before making an ergonomic, familiar and good-looking interface for an application will be at least as painless as doing the same thing on the desktop was about ten years ago.

Edit: However, I do believe part of the problems lay in the technology and not just in the crude development tools. Anyone remembers Motif? It used to have a set of reasonably good development tools (they weren't free, they were expensive as hell, but they did exist). Working with Motif still made me sad sometimes.

Edited 2009-07-15 22:00 UTC

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