It's time for another "OSNews asks" item. This time, I want to focus on something that I've been wanting to talk about with you all before, but never found the time for. The question is simple: which feature(s) from other operating systems would you like to see in your own main operating system?
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Member since:2006-06-12
When I say gnome, I say gtk-ish side of Linux and OpenOffice support "integration with gnome" (and dropped KDE). I just say that when you look at all these apps, they don't behave the same at all but are installed together (except cinelerra) on default distributions desktop.
In Mac OS, all (Carbon/Cocoa, not unsupported X11 port) application look native and similar, something that you don't find in Linux. That's my point and I really think it is a valid one.
Member since:2005-07-07
When I say gnome, I say gtk-ish side of Linux and OpenOffice support "integration with gnome" (and dropped KDE). I just say that when you look at all these apps, they don't behave the same at all but are installed together (except cinelerra) on default distributions desktop.
gtk is only small integral part of gnome. OpenOffice just uses theme that behaves according to default gnome theme and gtk open/save dialogs. Just watch widgets in open/save and for example Properties in OO.o. They aren't the same. you mix distro defaults with desktop defaults. if you change gnome with distribution name your comments would gain on validity
In Mac OS, all (Carbon/Cocoa, not unsupported X11 port) application look native and similar, something that you don't find in Linux. That's my point and I really think it is a valid one.
It is valid yes. But it is so much easier when cooks are the same (you used only apple based frameworks, OSX has a lot of them). This is why I use only pure gnome applications. If you use some X11 software on OSX it looks outlandish, if you use java app... result is the same. Many cooks, many flavors.
But then again, themes were always the sucky and inconsistent part of OSX, The ohh so many themes on OSX. Maybe that got a little better, I don't know... I avoid mac like plague. Last time I was forced to use mac (2 months ago) I rather went to half broken windows machine after 15 minutes of counterproductive work on mac with leopard. But then again my needs were specific... a lot of terminal, a little browsing, and boy ohh boy does mac terminal suck (but not so much as default mac keyboard and mighty(???) mouse).
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What (Linux) miss is integration between applications and between application and web services. In Gnome, all applications are different and sometime inconsistent (configs dialog is a good example). Mix OpenOffice with Pidgin, Gimp, Cinelerra and Inkscape, do you get any consistency?
lol and.... wtf? OpenOffice is not Gnome... It uses own toolkit. Cinelerra... Again... not gnome, it is Motif I think. Inkscape... I agree, but that is Inkscape fault and not gnomes, Inkscape simply doesn't follow gnome HIG... Inkscape is not part of gnome. Pidgin is the only software you actually guessed right, yes... it is gnome and it behaves like gnome. Gimp is gtk, but still I find its behaviour more or less gnome hig like,
I use Abiword/Gnumeric instead of OO.o, epiphany instead of firefox (firefox is actually the first thing that flies off my computers since webkit), after that my desktop is really consistant
Of course, most reader here are true alternative OS geeks, for many of us, mainly the veterans, we can deal with semi working incoherent applications by using many apps to do a single jobs instead of only one. Many of us like that (including me) and see of this way of doing things is part of true power users methods, but if we think about it, most of you will agree with me that it does not make that much sense in itself, we just give sense to it.
lol, guess veterans prefer best tool over coherent desktop. as you said you don't use desktop, you use random software.
Mac OS 10 is boring, but it is because the experience is so straightforward that we just don't notice it, not because it is bad. Linux miss this reality, and if we want the "years of Linux on the desktop" to even happen, projects have to communication en put emphasis on interface and work flow standardization.
Again, start using pure gnome or pure kde before talking about standardization.
But with OSX being boring, with that I agree, but not so much boring as counterproductive for ppl used to optimize their environment.
And what I miss from my gnome desktop? Nothing really. I have to install gnome-do and gnome global menu (second only on my single monitor setups) otherwise I'm more or less covered with my own applications (yes... I write what I need)