Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 14th Jul 2009 15:30 UTC
Amiga & AROS So we finally meet! You can't imagine how hard I've tried to get my hands on a machine that could run AmigaOS 4 in all its glory. I've never used the Amiga before - not during its heydays, and not during its afterglow - so it meant an unexplored world for me. You can imagine my excitement when ACube Systems, makers of the sam440ep board that runs AmigaOS 4.1, offered a review machine to me, built around their own PowerPC sam440ep flex motherboard.
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the toilet in the courtyard
by paolone on Thu 16th Jul 2009 09:59 UTC
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No, pekr, not. You don't need to be a man from 2 centuries ago to understand that having the toilet outside home is bad. And any people form early 1900 won't ever succeed in change my mind: having the toilet outside home would be really, really bad, whatever he would tell me.

In my humble opinion, Thom's review is interesting exactly 'cos he's NOT a former AmigaOS user, and this is really good because he's more objective in his review.

He spotted some GUI anachronysm that must be fixed, because one thing was the situation of 1992, another thing is the situation nowadays. Once upon a long ago, lower resolutions existed, visualizing windows contents took time, access to floppies was slow and so on, so ALL the problems Workbench 1.3-2.1 faced in the Eighties, today don't exists anymore.

There is no need for manual snapshotting, it MUST be done by the system itself, even if it is not "amiga-like" anymore, whathever amiga-like should mean in 2009. If a drawer hasn't ANY .info file into it, Show->All files SHOULD be choosen automatically by te OS, or the user will think there's nothing there, exactly as like as AROS does on foreign media (if a mounted volume hasn't a files, show->all files is choosen by default). PPC machines haven't the issue of slowly loading icons from floppies, they get all the icons to show in no-time from the hard drive.

And yes, I agree that 'AHI' should be called "Sound" in Prefs. Or at least "Sound (AHI)", in order to be comfortable for both old Amiga users and newer ones. I'd like to introduce these cosmetic changes in Icaros Desktop, however I'd get some issues when updating the system. But, who knows, maybe someday I'll convince at least AROS developers a similar change would be absolutely good. ;-)

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RE: the toilet in the courtyard
by -pekr- on Thu 16th Jul 2009 15:25 in reply to "the toilet in the courtyard"
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I don't know what are you replying to. You reply to no single point I made, trying to explain me things I might understand. I did not talk about snapshotting, nor AHI, nor anything you mention, so who are you trying to educate here?

I know exactly what I am talking about, so I persist - Tom imo did not live long enough with Amiga in order to better understand its philosophy, so just those things that seemed weird to him, overweighted possible positive experiences users had in the past. Judging from today's perspective of mainstream OSes - then Tom is of course absolutly right, but it is not imo all that fair. AmigaOS 4.1 does not pretend it belongs to first league - it is a reunion release for those still interested.

That is like turning on ZX Spectrum and complain it can't handle FullHD video :-) It just happened, that after all those years, AmigaOS is still developed, cause there's still a community around it. But Amiga today, is a complete niche, not even a market, just a hobby ...

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