Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 20th Jul 2009 19:16 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris The Linux desktop has come a long way. It's a fully usable, stable, and secure operating system that can be used quite easily by the masses. Not too long ago, Sun figured they could do the same by starting Project Indiana, which is supposed to deliver a complete distribution of OpenSolaris in a manner similar to GNU/Linux. After using the latest version for a while, I'm wondering: why?
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RE: same experience,
by glynnfoster on Tue 21st Jul 2009 16:22 UTC in reply to "same experience,"
glynnfoster
Member since:
2009-07-21

Why do you think it fell flat? There's now 3 releases, with incremental improvement each time. I think you're also forgetting a couple of things

- Solaris was a significant amount of code to open source - 30,000 individual files, 10 million lines of code. While development did have a 'community culture' internally, it was a pretty big effort to move that process externally.

- OpenSolaris contains a huge amount of change to Solaris 10, with a lot of new technologies that are starting to change the way software is delivered to the hands of the user. Yep, IPS can be a little underwhelming at times (purely by the stuff that hasn't yet been implemented), but its a drastic improvement to what was there before with SVr4 packaging and manageability around software updates.

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RE[2]: same experience,
by ideasman42 on Tue 21st Jul 2009 18:13 in reply to "RE: same experience,"
ideasman42 Member since:
2007-07-20

Why it fell flat?
- Because Thom says so and almost everyone agrees with him!

Discounting hardware and driver issues which I can forgive a non mainstream OS for. The overall experience is pretty bad.

For instance on the live CD it comes up with some gnoem panel error and asks me if I wanted to delete the applet.

The package manager was so slow, it could't not download GCC, and kept failing, my connection is fast enough so not sure why this is.

For some reason it also had trouble with samba not connecting to a PC that all my other linux boxes could connect to through samba.

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RE[3]: same experience,
by Jondice on Tue 21st Jul 2009 19:05 in reply to "RE[2]: same experience,"
Jondice Member since:
2006-09-20

Your count of most people, at least as defined as people commenting in this thread, is incorrect.

Out of the people that commented one way or the other on OpenSolaris as a desktop OS, 20 seem to think it is roughly as good as or better than Linux, while 14 people seem to think it is not as good or much worse.


Furthermore, there are a couple of problems with the categories below. Are we talking about people that consider a desktop OS one that is good for desktop use for "average joe", or one that is good for developers. To me, a good desktop OS for developers should suit both their work and pleasure needs, but it may be more difficult to perform certain operatins than in the default (windows or OS X).

Also, a lot of of folks seem to be trying out Solaris on their old Pentium 3s or 4s, which granted linux performs better on, but if you use a modern system, I think you'll find there is no noticeable (not to say measurable) difference. Even I don't use OpenSolaris on an old 512MB laptop I have - I don't even use Linux. Windows XP (a trimmed down version) is the only reasonable "modern" OS to use on it (I have tried them all, and more).

Nonetheless, I classified the below based on whether or not people said, more or less, if it is a good desktop OS (without adjusting their definition):

OpenSolaris as a Desktop OS is not as good as Linux:
Total: 14
Thom
fretinator
broken_symlink
Leszek Lesner
diegocg
fernandotcl
cjcox
kragil
twm_bucket
Morgan
Marcin
Gullible Jones
ideasman42
gjoahnn

OpenSolaris Desktop is the same as Linux or, it is awesome:
Total: 20
Lazarus
Bill Shooter of Bul
oxygene
binarycrusader
KevinM
Jondice
dvzt
phoenix
renhoek
coolvibe
Troydm
cade
edogawaconan
etherealsoul
axellec
Kebabbert
kawazu
glynnfoste
Kalessin
sorpiga

?? or borderline:
Kishe
scribe
Laurence
unoengborg
DistinctiveWeb
OddFox
dvhh
adricnet

Edited 2009-07-21 19:08 UTC

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