Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 20th Jul 2009 19:16 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris The Linux desktop has come a long way. It's a fully usable, stable, and secure operating system that can be used quite easily by the masses. Not too long ago, Sun figured they could do the same by starting Project Indiana, which is supposed to deliver a complete distribution of OpenSolaris in a manner similar to GNU/Linux. After using the latest version for a while, I'm wondering: why?
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binarycrusader
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2005-07-06

So, while the low level stuff is very important, it's not what users generally care about. What they care about are the desktop applications that they directly use. So, to the average user, management subsystems don't matter - as long as they work well enough not to cause them any problems anyway.


Your point is valid, but does not coutner what I said at all ;)

In particular, my point was that the underlying management framework and kernel can have a drastic effect on applications and the desktop.

For example, the new audio subsystem in builds 117+ provides fully virtualized audio allowing multiple applications to use the sound device at the same time. While this was solved by sound servers, PuleAudio, etc. in the past, OpenSolaris has a fully native implementation. It should be obvious why users indirectly care about this.

And if OpenSolaris is using the same desktop and applications as a linux distro, then it's as good as another linux distro to most people. There are plenty of people who care about things like ZFS and the various cool features in OpenSolaris stuff, but the average user really isn't going to.


Except it isn't, because OpenSolaris fully integrates additional OS-specific functionality into the "same desktop and applications." For example, because of zfs, GNOME Nautilus has a time slider feature that is not present on GNU/Linux distributions.

So again, the underlying technology matters when it comes to OpenSolaris. Many of its technologies can have a fundamental effect on applications and how they are used.

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kawazu Member since:
2005-12-11


Except it isn't, because OpenSolaris fully integrates additional OS-specific functionality into the "same desktop and applications." For example, because of zfs, GNOME Nautilus has a time slider feature that is not present on GNU/Linux distributions.


Would you mind providing other examples for OpenSolaris features directly included in the GNOME ui, except for Time Slider? This is one of the main complaints I (still?) have to make about it - there's next to nothing on the desktop which is "unique OpenSolaris"... except for Time Slider, maybe, which also just recently has been included...
K.

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binarycrusader Member since:
2005-07-06

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Except it isn't, because OpenSolaris fully integrates additional OS-specific functionality into the "same desktop and applications." For example, because of zfs, GNOME Nautilus has a time slider feature that is not present on GNU/Linux distributions.


Would you mind providing other examples for OpenSolaris features directly included in the GNOME ui, except for Time Slider? This is one of the main complaints I (still?) have to make about it - there's next to nothing on the desktop which is "unique OpenSolaris"... except for Time Slider, maybe, which also just recently has been included...
K.
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If by GNOME UI, you mean GNOME desktop applications, then:

Another example would be the Package Manager, which has support for OpenSolaris' unique Boot Environments technology.

This allows a user to create and manage boot environments.

Boot environments allow a user to upgrade a "copy" of their currently running system instead of the live system itself preventing the update process from destabilising currently running applications.

If the new boot environment fails (because of some bugs specific to their hardware perhaps), or a new version of their application doesn't work right, users can simply go back to the old boot environment without losing productivity.

If by GNOME UI, you mean the standard GNOME programs itself?

Here are some examples:

* The GNOME volume control applet has been specifically enhanced to take advantage of and use features found in the new boomer audio subsystem

* In the very near future, the Shutdown dialog for GNOME will be enhanced to allow the user to choose between a 'Fast Reboot' which causes the OpenSolaris kernel to reload itself without causing the system to reset (which avoids having to wait for the BIOS POST process, etc.) and a 'Restart' which physically restarts the system.

* The GNOME 'Users And Groups' application was enhanced to allow assignment of OpenSolaris' roles and profiles security attributes.

* The network administration control panel of GNOME was enhanced to allow access to OpenSolaris-specific network technologies such as network profiles (even more enhancements are coming in the future).

* A special 'services' application was added that allows management of OpenSolaris SMF-based services.

There are probably other areas as well that I've missed, but that should give you an idea...

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