Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 20th Jul 2009 19:16 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris The Linux desktop has come a long way. It's a fully usable, stable, and secure operating system that can be used quite easily by the masses. Not too long ago, Sun figured they could do the same by starting Project Indiana, which is supposed to deliver a complete distribution of OpenSolaris in a manner similar to GNU/Linux. After using the latest version for a while, I'm wondering: why?
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gjoahnn
Member since:
2009-06-02

Well it is true. Fact is that 2008.11 contains numerous critical security vulnerabilities e.g. in OpenSSL, ipfilter, or Firefox, all of which have been fixed in the /support and /dev branch only.
The 2009.06 release e.g. contains a Firefox 3.1beta with critical vulnerabilities, a fix is available from /support or /dev only.
For more examples of unfixed security vulnerabilities in both the 2008.11 and 2009.06 release branches check http://blogs.sun.com/security/category/alerts .
Also note their change in policy on their website which I have previously mentioned in http://www.osnews.com/thread?366658 .

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kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

Not only does it run like whale on land, it doesn't even give you security updates for releases.
( http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=384939 )

Just pathetic.


Just use Linux! It is really free, you can get free updates for up to 7 years in some cases and BtrFS will wipe the floor with ZFS.

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Kebabbert Member since:
2007-07-27

:)

In my view, this is non optimal behavior from Linux:
http://opsmonkey.blogspot.com/2007/01/linux-memory-overcommit.html

Linux over allocates RAM. And when it needs RAM, Linux starts to kill processes randomly. This is horrendous, yes? Whereas Solaris doesnt over allocate RAM and lets the processes run till theyve finished. Imagine you have a process running weeks with a calculation and suddenly it gets killed?




Maybe this has something to do with the declining quality of the Linux code? Linux kernel hacker Andrew Morton explains:
http://lwn.net/Articles/285088/
"Q: Is it your opinion that the quality of the kernel is in decline? Most developers seem to be pretty sanguine about the overall quality problem. Assuming there's a difference of opinion here, where do you think it comes from? How can we resolve it?

A: I used to think it was in decline, and I think that I might think that it still is. I see so many regressions which we never fix."




Or this thread:
http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Active_Merge_Windows
"the [Linux source] tree breaks every day, and it's becoming an extremely non-fun environment to work in. We need to slow down the merging, we need to review things more, we need people to test their [...] changes!"




I think it has something to do with Linux not having stable ABIs?
http://linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/09/02/driver_ease.html
"the incompatibility between different stable point versions of the kernel hampers the Driver on Demand concept. You could compile a driver for 2.6.5 and it would probably not work on 2.6.10 if you simply loaded the precompiled binary module; you would need to recompile the driver for each kernel version."

That is a potential source of unstability. Your driver seems to work fine, with your new kernel. But in fact, on rare occasions your new kernel + old driver combo will just explode but it seldoms happens so you never make the connection. (Do you always recompile all your drivers when you get a new kernel?) The result is that Linux is potentially unstable:
http://lethargy.org/~jesus/archives/77-Choosing-Solaris-10-over-Lin...

And
http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/sans/features/article.php/374...

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Jondice Member since:
2006-09-20

It isn't pathetic - I think you'll see the same things with Redhat enterprise linux, etc.

If you really want free security updates, then you could try nexenta - though I don't have much experience with it.


Really amazing what people can complain about in such an extreme way...

As a *Desktop user*, are you really that worried about needing all of these security updates? The one exception is probably Firefox, and I had no trouble updating it through IPS to the latest version.

Also, from what I've seen, btrfs will give you about the same functionality as ZFS - each fs may have slight performance gains in some areas over the other. I'd like to know how it will wipe the floor with it though ;)

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dvzt Member since:
2008-10-23

Trolls! Do not feed!

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