Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 23rd Jul 2009 22:53 UTC, submitted by Remy Chi Jian Suen
Editorial So, Microsoft submits 20000 lines of code to the Linux kernel, all licensed under the GPL. Microsoft, who considers Linux a great threat, and once called the GPL a "cancer". Opinions on this one are flying all around us, but what does Linus Torvalds, Linux' benevolent dictator, think about all this?
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RE[4]: I agree...
by Delgarde on Fri 24th Jul 2009 01:28 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: I agree..."
Delgarde
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2008-08-19

I think you may find that the hate is coming from the Microsoft side of the fence.


In part, yes. But it's far from exclusive - Linus is right that there are a lot of people who feel that the goal of open-source development is (or should be) to destroy Microsoft. Which is nonsense - the goal of open-source development is to produce open-source software, and contributions from Microsoft should be as welcome as those from anywhere else.

Now, that's not to say that Microsoft is a great friend to the open-source community, which is blatantly false. But there's a big difference between justified criticism, and the paranoid, unreasoning hostility that some demonstrate.

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RE[5]: I agree...
by lemur2 on Fri 24th Jul 2009 01:41 in reply to "RE[4]: I agree..."
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2007-02-17

"I think you may find that the hate is coming from the Microsoft side of the fence.
In part, yes. But it's far from exclusive - Linus is right that there are a lot of people who feel that the goal of open-source development is (or should be) to destroy Microsoft. Which is nonsense - the goal of open-source development is to produce open-source software, "

Agreed. Precisely. Spot on. With you 100%.

and contributions from Microsoft should be as welcome as those from anywhere else.


Not sure about that ... given Microsoft's self-admitted intentions towards FOSS (i.e. to destroy it), and Microsoft's long and well documented history of using tactics such as "embrace, extend and extinguish" and "divide and conquer".

Now, that's not to say that Microsoft is a great friend to the open-source community, which is blatantly false. But there's a big difference between justified criticism, and the paranoid, unreasoning hostility that some demonstrate.


Agreed ... so why is there such a huge, overwhelming amount of paranoid, unreasoning hostility directed at FOSS coming from Microsoft and its supporters?

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RE[6]: I agree...
by Hiev on Fri 24th Jul 2009 01:46 in reply to "RE[5]: I agree..."
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

Looks like you are trying to justify the hate to MS at any cost, But hate whatever it comes from id bad.

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RE[6]: I agree...
by polaris20 on Fri 24th Jul 2009 02:19 in reply to "RE[5]: I agree..."
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2005-07-06


Not sure about that ... given Microsoft's self-admitted intentions towards FOSS (i.e. to destroy it), and Microsoft's long and well documented history of using tactics such as "embrace, extend and extinguish" and "divide and conquer".


I think much of the FOSS community already does a great job of the "divide" part of "divide and conquer".

I think Linus is spot on with his comments, and it's good to see such words coming from him.

Edited 2009-07-24 02:20 UTC

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RE[6]: I agree...
by Delgarde on Fri 24th Jul 2009 02:27 in reply to "RE[5]: I agree..."
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

Agreed ... so why is there such a huge, overwhelming amount of paranoid, unreasoning hostility directed at FOSS coming from Microsoft and its supporters?


Because FOSS is an ideology that not everyone subscribes to? Because it threatens existing businesses that have invested vast amounts of money into products, only to see FOSS equivalents springing up and undercutting them? Large companies generally don't like change, and open source is a much more serious threat than mere commercial competition.

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RE[6]: I agree...
by ErrantX on Fri 24th Jul 2009 09:45 in reply to "RE[5]: I agree..."
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2009-07-24

> I think you may find that the hate is coming from the Microsoft side of the fence.

What rubbish. Your exactly the person Linus is talking about.

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